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Hunt down the freezer #73048
Hunt down the freezer #73048
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How did you get such big energy consumption values? Because when I tried to make it logically close by calculations - I was raped and forced to check real world analogies Even if the heavy-duty freezer will fast freeze or freeze for very low temperature - it will not consume such lot power if you don't let its door open and make all cold air to go out |
I checked the annual/daily power consumption, that manufacturer provided, and calculated it to hourly consumption (if annual, then x/8760 hours in year, if daily, then x/24 hours in day), then multiplied it on 1.2 for chest versions, and 1.5 for upright version. Numbers are up to debate, especially if someone find how the manufacturer test their fridges and how much it is a spherical cow (because without this information i assume the number they provide is the worst case - extrapolation of some internal test, where they plug fridge and never open it for x amount of time, which is far from how survivor will use it), but i assume they are good enough |
Can you give a link to manufacturer characteristics? Because so big energy consumption looks like a mistake |
each item has a comment with a name of actual fridge/freezer (or a direct link), from which stats are delivered from. In case of heavy-duty freezer, it's Infrico AGN602BT, https://infricodocuments.com/infrico/spec_sheet/es/AGN602BT.pdf took from their web page mention 9,22 kwh/day, which bring us to 384 W mentioned in the comment; multiplying by 1.5 bring us to 576 W It is something i brought up in discord, because the difference is surprisingly big, comparing it to some another upright freezers, and the conclusion was that two door versions, albeit bigger, do not seal the gaps as good as a single door variants |
It should be the value, if the freezer work non stop all day long at the maximum power to maintain the lowest (-18 C° listed in link) of possible temperature This logic can be simply proofed by searching in google "how much kWh per annum will freezer consume" So multiplication should be in opposite way |
Well, it's completely opposite approach from mine - you assume that manufacturer write the power output based on the "we left our freezer completely open for a day, and extrapolate it on a year basis", when mine is "we left out freezer completely closed for a day, and extrapolate it on a year basis". While i don't know which method is used to obtain the number (nor do you), i will stand my ground, because in my opinion advertisement department is more interested in showing the product better than it is, rather than quality department showing it is not upd: reading 2015/1094-1, it doesn't specify a need for the manufacture to open unit or enforce it's maximum output for all time, and the formula for power output of heavy-duty fridge is, you guess it, upd2: adressing your link, it uses not the hourly power output to calculate power, but the max power the fridge can use |
When you are talking about fridge/freezer characteristics - in every country there is a law, which forces companies to show true characteristics, no matter what advertisement department are interested in But in this way I don't see the reason to use it, because it will burn all your energy. You will need incredible number of solar panels to make it work, or have few cars to generate electricity and burn lots of fuel to make it works |
i like how you answered the
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to clarify, in fairness, US do not obey it, but it has it's own ftc.gov/energy lable, that has the same function and about "I don't see the reason to use it, because it will burn all your energy", well. Yes. Don't use it. |
… from GIZ GmbH `Guideline on the Manual Dismantling of Refrigerators and Air Conditioners`
Now to fix the test errors, and it would be okay to merge, mapgen changes would be in a followup |
Summary
Content "Fridges and freezers. What do you mean 'we already have some'?"
Purpose of change
I want
Describe the solution
Add a variety of new fridges and freezers, and update the stats of the old one:
now fridge can be disassembled into household fridge and freezer at once (sad problem that the game do not allow them to be a single unit, as it often happens in industry)
TODO:
Testing
Run for a while in the world, smashed different fridges, used some as appliance. seems good for me
Followup
Decided to split the PR in two, since this one is already too big. Second part would contain mapgen changes to put new fridges on the map, and maybe, if i'll get a green light, adding fridges to the scrap trader