Remove outdated asterisk for Yemeni suffix #897
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The use of an asterisk before *.ye suggests that this suffix does does not allow domain names to be registered directly under the suffix, but instead must be registered as a third level name. There is ample empirical evidence that this is outdated; the page http://althawrah.ye/archives/597366 is 200-OK as of Thu Oct 17 11:31:44 EDT 2019, and althawrah is the actual domain, not second-level domain or part of the suffix. Related discussion: > https://stackoverflow.com/q/58434990/7954504
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@bsolomon1124 Thanks for opening this. For ccTLDs, we only accept PRs from the ccTLD Registry Operator or by pointing to evidence of public policies documented by the ccTLD Registry Operator. Do you represent the Registry? Alternatively, can you point to policies published by the Registry Operator (i.e. explicit policies, not implicit results) |
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@sleevi No, I do not represent TeleYemen in any capacity. However, from the existing page (http://www.y.net.ye/services/domain_name.htm) linked from public_suffix_list.dat (e.g. prior to this commit):
Would you consider this a policy? If not, what would you propose? |
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The answer on that related Stack Overflow is correct. In general, contacting the ccTLD Operator (e.g. https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/ye.html ) and requesting they submit a correction and/or document their registration policies is a potential path forward. |
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Okay, I'm going to give it a shot and email the technical contact listed for TeleYemen. Can't hurt to ask... @sleevi Is there a contact point they can use if they prefer not to file through GitHub or do not have a GitHub account? |
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I messaged the technical contact listed on IANA db ([email protected]) on 10/24/19 but have not heard back as of 11/12/19. |
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Any updates? I appreciate you trying :) |
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Have not heard back but a next step could be to look for other contact info there. |
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Have been tracking; reached out to POC for .ye in October but no reply. Agree they would be the appropriate party to submit this change |
We get this a lot, and I suspect that the admin emails get a lot of spam due to public listing at IANA, which have valid requests like yours or ours lost in the noise. |
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@bsolomon1124 I and some of the other volunteers here have invested some time in validation of this submission and were unable to confirm. Unfortunately, it was not possible to verify the list change through the available information or a verifiable source, and we're also unable to run the DNS _psl TXT record here, so we'll have to close this for now. I have reached out subsequently to find out about .YE and have not had a response. |
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@dnsguru @sleevi I know this convo is from a while back, but resurfacing it because I received just this morning an email from the domain teleyemen.com.ye regarding updating the suffic list for .ye. This is the body of the email:
I realize just copy-pasting here does little to verify the authenticity to you, but I also do not want to unnecessarily disclose the full email address or name. If having a copy of this email would be sufficient, what would be the best way to get that to one of the maintainers of this repo? |
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Hi @bsolomon1124 they would need to add a dns record for each string in order to indicate their administration can be validated. We need to be able to issue the command We should be able to query 1.1.1.1 or 8.8.8.8 and get these answered. Here is what they'll need in zones: |
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Also, the PSL file has undergone significant revisions since this initial PR was submitted, so we're going to need you to re-base it - can be done in this PR or if you (or their administrative contact) create another new PR, reference this in the comments by putting #897 in it |
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Unable to re-open for #1182 - new pull request must be created |
The use of an asterisk before *.ye suggests that this suffix does
does not allow domain names to be registered directly under the suffix,
but instead must be registered as a third level name.
There is ample empirical evidence that this is outdated; the
page http://althawrah.ye/archives/597366 is 200-OK as of
Thu Oct 17 11:31:44 EDT 2019, and althawrah is the actual domain,
not second-level domain or part of the suffix.
Related discussion: