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Add nom.tr #832

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There are 51 .nom.tr domains https://nic.tr/index.php?USRACTN=STATISTICS

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ilhanyumer commented Jun 1, 2019

It looks like there are .nom.tr domains since 1998 https://nic.tr/index.php?USRACTN=STATICHTML&PAGE=about_history

Google search results https://www.google.com/search?q=site%3A.nom.tr

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sleevi commented Jul 1, 2019

For Registry-reserved domains, we only accept PRs from the Registry / that can be established via Registry-provided information.

As such, I attempted to verify this request by going through https://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/tr.html to http://www.nic.tr and attempting to find a registry-policy reserving these domains.

As best I can tell, https://www.nic.tr/forms/eng/policies.pdf is the registry policy, dated Version 5.1.0, and does not reserve .nom.tr.

As such, closing this as WONTFIX.

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@sleevi have you read https://nic.tr/index.php?USRACTN=STATICHTML&PAGE=about_history ?

1 Temmuz 1998 tarihi itibariyle nom.tr (kişisel alan adı) başvuruları da kabul edilmeye başlanmıştır.

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@weppos @sleevi these example domains have different owners according to whois data:

erkan.nom.tr

koc.nom.tr

You can use this whois or your own whois https://nic.tr/index.php?USRACTN=DOMAINSRCH

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sleevi commented Jul 1, 2019

Differing WHOIS information is not in and of itself sufficient.

Thanks for providing that link to the history, but I can't find any supporting data in the policies. It appears to be describing historic registration policies, not current. Indeed, this change conflicts with that documentation. Even under their FAQ, .nom.tr is not listed as a reserved domain.

Do you happen to have a contact at the registry you could point to this issue?

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ilhanyumer commented Jul 1, 2019

@sleevi unfortunatly https://www.nic.tr/forms/eng/policies.pdf is outdated. For example that document doesn't have .kep.tr and tsk.tr but these are 2 are on the list. nc.tr and gov.nc.tr are not on that document too. May be we should remove kep.tr, tsk.tr, nc.tr and gov.nc.tr.?

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It is okay to add nonsense domains but it is a problem for nom.tr https://github.com/publicsuffix/list/blob/master/public_suffix_list.dat#L12344 okay

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ilhanyumer commented Jul 1, 2019

@sleevi there are currently registered 51 nom.tr domains https://nic.tr/index.php?USRACTN=STATISTICS for yesterday 30/06/2019. And the source is nic.tr.

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Even under their FAQ, .nom.tr is not listed as a reserved domain.

Probably because they no longer sell .nom.tr domains but retain existing .nom.tr customers.

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sleevi commented Jul 1, 2019

We do not add domains without the domain holder requesting or with clear documentation of registry policies. Domains which have been validated using such policies remain, until we have evidence otherwise.

As such, absent that, we will not be adding nom.tr

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ilhanyumer commented Jul 1, 2019

@sleevi you can validate by calling +903129880060 https://nic.tr/index.php?USRACTN=CNTINFO

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