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Today was an open agenda meeting so we got to dig into everyone's updates in a little more detail than usual.
Keep reading for the fantastic discussions on leadership and mentorship, applying for a job, chairing sessions, and building community.

Happy new year to everyone celebrating the lunar new year 🐀 🎆 🎇

## Celebrations and cool things to share

**Kirstie** gave a talk at [OpenMR Benelux](https://openmrbenelux.github.io/) on Tuesday (slides available at doi: [10.5281/zenodo.3615258](https://doi.org/10.5281/zenodo.3615258)).
She had a really fun day accompanied by lots of FOMO for missing the hacking days on Wednesday and Thursday.
Her particular huge highlight was meeting [Agah Karakuzu](https://twitter.com/agahkarakuzu) and [Christina Bergmann](https://twitter.com/chbergma) - two people she's collaborated extensively with but whom she'd never met in real life!

Kirstie is also keeping her fingers crossed that the organisers of the event are going to write down all the work they did to run the event as a contribution to _The Turing Way_.
It was a really really thoughtfully run event, all the way down to a badge making station and personal thank you cards and brain cookies 😋🧠😋

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<img src="https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO3EEO4WAAAoRAS?format=jpg&name=4096x4096" alt="Card with Kirstie written on the front and brain shaped cookies wrapped in cellophane">
<figcaption>Delicious brain cookies that Kirstie received as a thank you from the organisers of OpenMR Benelux (via <a href="https://twitter.com/kirstie_j/status/1219846659091456001">Kirstie's twitter feed</a>).
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**Yo** shared a call from "[I'm a scientist, get me out of here](https://imascientist.org.uk/scientists/)" for more folks to join them (deadline **27 January**).
It involves chatting with kids about science, its good for fulfilling scicomm requirements in grants, and there's the chance of a prize at the end.

**Yo** also passed her first year EngD interview!
CONGRATULATIONS from everyone in the lab 🎊 🎉 ✨

**Patricia** shared that her main realisation this week was how much she enjoyed putting conference submissions together when she has a bit of freedom, some time to think, and good collaborators.
She also shared this article: "Low-carbon, virtual science conference tries to recreate social buzz" (doi: [10.1038/d41586-019-03899-1](https://doi.org/10.1038/d41586-019-03899-1)(doi: 10.1038/d41586-019-03899-1).

On form as ever, **Kirstie** asked for this to be created as a potential chapter in _The Turing Way_, so now there's a chapter proposal issue: [#803](https://github.com/alan-turing-institute/the-turing-way/issues/803) to collect resources!
If anyone is interested in writing it (or part of it!), that would be wonderful! 💖

**Elizabeth** is about halfway through ["How to do nothing: Resisting the attention economy"](https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/600671/how-to-do-nothing-by-jenny-odell/).
She's loving it so far.
It's a critique of our cultural insistance that time should be spent "productively".
It also tries to motivate how and why we should work together to to hold open an (emotional, intellectual) space where we refuse that framing, without just dropping out and neglecting our responsibilities to society.

**Georgia** shared a link to [Women At The Table](https://www.womenatthetable.net) a growing, global gender equality & democracy CSO.

> "The lifeblood of our world’s decision-making is data.
> And therefore we are at a critical turning point – we must create new norms and write a new data story.
> We must make the data revolution a gender data revolution grounded in human rights."

Tomorrow **Ang** and **Yini** will celebrate Chinese New Year's Eve.
This is the first time **Ang** has not been in his hometown.
He is missing his family and will make a lot of video calls tomorrow!

The lab are thinking of everyone affected by the [coronavirus](https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/jan/25/what-is-the-coronavirus-wuhan-china-virus-symptoms) in the city of Whuan and the surrounding areas.

**Yini** shared a beautiful picture of the northern lights that she saw last week.

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<img src="https://i.imgur.com/SlyBFuN.jpg" alt="Green lights in dark sky">
<figcaption>Northern lights from Norway.
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**Malvika** gave a talk today at [OpenMR Benelux](https://openmrbenelux.github.io/).
The slides are available at [https://speakerdeck.com/malvikasharan/designing-open-and-inclusive-communities](https://speakerdeck.com/malvikasharan/designing-open-and-inclusive-communities).
She also shared [GitPitch](https://gitpitch.com) which is a tool to show presentation slides from markdown, and [braindr](https://braindr.us/#/) (now extended to [Swipes for Science](https://swipesforscience.org/)) built by the wonderful [Anisha Keshavan](https://anisha.pizza/#/).
You can read all about the genesis of the project, now supported by eLife, in her paper "Combining Citizen Science and Deep Learning to Amplify Expertise in Neuroimaging" (doi: [10.3389/fninf.2019.00029](https://doi.org/10.3389/fninf.2019.00029)).

**Isla** is applying for jobs at the moment, and has spent lots of time this week cribbing about the linux kernel!

We discussed in the meeting the particular challenge that interviews hold for introverted people.
It's really tough trying to show off about yourself, in part because that assessment is so wrong!
Also the time pressure to perform in is so wildly different to reality.
Patience & humility are so important in the real world.
We recommended trying to reframing the question away from "showing off" to how you can **help** the organisation achieve its goals.
That might not be what they asked, but it certainly is what they'll be interested to hear.

We all sent **Isla** a big group hug.
GOOD LUCK 💖

**Louise** went to a really interesting seminar by [Alan Garfinkel](https://www.lincoln.ox.ac.uk/Fellows/AlanGarfinkel) the other day that focussed on Alan Turing's work on reaction diffusion equations and emergent [pattern formation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_pattern).
She found it fascinating, especially as there are so many beautiful patterns that simply pop out of the equations 😄

## Questions we're thinking about

**Kirstie** asked the lab to complete a few sentences about themselves to update the lab's [who's who](/about) page.
She's so proud to be working with such wonderful people 😊 ✨ 😍

**Patricia** asked what lab members expect from a session chair at a conference?
What makes a good session chair except keeping to time?

Some answers included:

* Thoughtfully managing questions.
The chair should ask a question if no-one volunteers (as is often the case).
If there are multiple people with hands raised then choosing a woman first has tended to result in a more diverse set of question askers than if the first asker is male.
* Introducing speakers with a sentence or two if you know them well enough.
* Asking how to pronounce speaker names _before_ the session!

**Yo** asked a question that we discussed in detail: how do we each feel about absentee managers / leaders / mentors?

Some of the lab's comments and experiences included:

* I used to think "rarely available but nice when around" was fine, but I feel like making an active effort to be hands-on and not always busy is actually pretty important if you want people to feel valued.
* Preparing briefing docs or a clear powerpoint on my work for an overly busy supervisor really helps to get useful input when we did meet.
* Praise is so important, but it has to be real.
Hearing "well done" if there isn't enough trust to believe that my manager actually means it rings hollow.
* One thing I try to do when, say, reviewing a document, is to highlight bits and explain _why_ I liked them, to make the praise seem real-er.
* Having a busy supervisor nudged me to learn to communicate with my colleagues more often.
* It's particularly difficult to know how to make a decision before joining a position.
The job or doctoral project description is so short, and an interview won't give you information on whether your mentor is good or not.
* A major challenge is that these are structural problems in academia.
Spending time supporting students and staff on anything that isn't a co-authored paper is actively disincentivsed by academic reward structure.
* A good phd supervisor at the start of your degree is a bad one at the end, and vice versa.
Its important not to look for everything you need in one person.
* The time scale of impact from mentorship and training is long.
The [mathematics geneology project](https://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu) and [The Academic Family Tree](https://academictree.org) show if people train others who go on to be successful... in academia only.
These projects don't track success if trainees leave academia 😭
* Professional services can support you.....but they're often not promoted or enabled.
* Don't look for a specific mentor, build a mentor from LOTS of different people and their strengths.
* If the goals of supervisor and student are not aligned then they could try to design outputs that are going to benefit both.
For example if the student wants to go into industry, they could focus on building infrastructure and pipelines in the lab rather than writing papers.
(Although this can backfire when it comes to the degree requirements - at least at the moment!)

**Sarah** asked how to encourage people to use a service?
Hub23 (the Turing's private BinderHub) doesn't currently have any users which is a shame because she's put a lot of work into making it really easy for me to maintain (e.g. [writing bots](https://github.com/HelmUpgradeBot) to keep the helm chart up-to-date and the container registry in a manageable state).
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Hub23 (the Turing's private BinderHub) doesn't currently have any users which is a shame because she's put a lot of work into making it really easy for me to maintain (e.g. [writing bots](https://github.com/HelmUpgradeBot) to keep the helm chart up-to-date and the container registry in a manageable state).
Hub23 (the Turing's private BinderHub) doesn't currently have any users which is a shame because she's put a lot of work into making it really easy to maintain (e.g. [writing bots](https://github.com/HelmUpgradeBot) to keep the helm chart up-to-date and the container registry in a manageable state).

It would be so sad to tear it down.

She's trying to encourage participation by holding hackathons as part of our team collaborative time and it would be good to roll this out to more of the Institute.
**Kirstie** agreed that it needs a little more development first.
Apart from allowing GitHub login it's exactly the same as [mybinder.org](https://mybinder.org/), whereas what people really want or need is to use Binder for private code or data.
The lab also sent some solidarity - its tough to be the only person working on a tool or infrastructure project 🤗

**Georgia** asked for advice on combining (continuous) open source and (continual) agile workflows.
The lab are going to dedicate a future lab meeting to this discussion.

**Ang** shared a paper: "Alpha Waves as a Neuromarker of Autism Spectrum Disorder: The Challenge of Reproducibility and Heterogeneity" (doi: [10.3389/fnins.2018.00662](https://doi.org/10.3389/fnins.2018.00662)).
He was particularly shocked by figure 4 (below).
**Sarah** recommended [Docker](https://docs.docker.com/engine/docker-overview/) and [Singularity](https://sylabs.io/docs/) as important tools to address this problem.
They're both described in the _Turing Way_ chapter on [Reproducible Environments](https://the-turing-way.netlify.com/reproducible_environments/06/containers.html).
Ultimately though, we need a shift in culture that says sharing code and data is no longer enough for reproducibility, but the computational environment the analysis was performed in also needs to be shared.

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<figcaption>Alpha waves characteristics analyzed by Matlab 2013 versus Matlab 2014.
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Do you know which version of the EEGLab toolbox was used in each of these plots? I'm unsure from the text alone whether it's the version of MATLAB causing these differences or if it's also down to the version of the custom toolbox used.

(A) Alpha peak power (dB).
(B) Alpha frequency (Hz).
From Lefebvre et al, 2018 (doi: <a href="https://doi.org/10.3389/fnins.2018.00662">10.3389/fnins.2018.00662</a>).
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**Yini** asked the best phrasing to use when a p value of a hypothesis test is greater than 0.05, and how to discriminate between "evidence of absence" and "absence of evidence"?
**Kirstie** answered that ultimately the only thing you can say about a p value greater than alpha (the _a priori_ threshold for assessing statistical significance for this test) is that you accept the null hypothesis: there is no evidence for the relationship you're investigating.
(See this blog post for a [list of 500 ways](https://mchankins.wordpress.com/2013/04/21/still-not-significant-2/) that papers have tried to get around this unfortunate truth.
Don't join their rankings!)
If you want to give *evidence of absence* you'll have to use a [bayesian framework](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_inference).
[Alex Etz](https://twitter.com/alxetz) has some [wonderful resources](https://osf.io/846x7/) that he curated for the [Advanced Methods in Reproducible Science](https://osf.io/gupxv/) workshop earlier this year.

## An open discussion

Much of the meeting was spent discussing the comments above, particularly **Yo's** question about mentorship and line management, and **Isla's** job interview experiences.

We wished each other a happy [Year of the Rat](https://chinesenewyear.net/zodiac/rat/) 🐀.
新年快乐 (xīn nián kuài lè).
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