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MusicSongs-Org edited this page Aug 24, 2023 · 2 revisions

Welcome to the MusicSongs.org_Lemmy wiki!

First off, why was this repository created...

  1. Twitter becoming X and Reddit charging money for API usage has created a situation since May 2023 that there are people seeking to try out more experimental social media apps and suggestions. In particular May 2023 started a surge of Reddit users deleting their Reddit accounts and looking for alternatives. There were people counting down to the June 30 cut-off of Reddit third-party apps.
  2. The SQL performance in Lemmy 0.17.4 and 0.18.0 were not meeting the "High Performance" promise the project made on their GitHub home page to newcomers. Servers that built up data (content of posts and comments) were experiencing regular crashes and CPU overloads due to the SQL statements Lemmy was executing. The June 30 deadline for Reddit came and went, the Twitter rename to X came July 24 - and Lemmy's SQL statements were still fundamentally broken in mid August.
  3. A fresh positive creative outlet to experiment and not agitate existing design choices or project promises.

How long with the project last? I don't know. Consider this experimental. The future of ActivePub, Lemmy, and other things is very dynamic - as it seems 2023 has been for old-school Twitter and Reddit - so it is an exciting time!

Main things to take away is that:

  1. This project does not make claims of "High Performance" data / API like the Lemmy project does. Frustrations with promises of high performance have created a negative experience in June and July 2023 with all the steady server crashes and lost data on the Lemmy platform. This project will be up front and disclose that Lemmy is field-proven to be poor performing, not "High Performance", and that growing pains are part of the Lemmy application and network. Consider our project experimental and please treat it accordingly.

  2. This project does not make claims of Privacy and Deleting all your content when that's not what a public forum is at heart - and with over 1000 federation ActivePub servers intending to copy the content of your posts and comments, plus so many authors of social media bots, how can a small-time social media site operator police or verify that every copy on over 1000 independently run Lemmy servers has been removed? Even people on social media can quote and screenshot your public posts and comments, it is routine on Reddit to share screen shots and posts and comments - and has been for many years. This project does not make such claims... knowing that ActivePub federation is at the heart of the application.

  3. This project is not trying to make a platform that can take on the load and replace Reddit or other major commercial platforms. The project does not advertise that it can do that like the Lemmy product does as "High Performance". Even as far back as 2010 Reddit had to have dozens of servers and huge costs - Reddit outlined this in May 2010

The ideas behind open source, ActivePub and federation offer a lot of flexibility and it is expected that the main Lemmy project will work out performance and promises of deleting content soon enough for many others.

At heart, it was frustration with Twitter, frustration with Reddit, and frustration with promises of "High Performance" in Lemmy project that dominated so much of the migration to Lemmy in June and July 2023... Reddit community's grass-roots protest by moderators was an event to experience, so much frustration in June and July was in the HiveMind air.

Music Songs . Org

If there is something that the late-2019 Pandemic has taught us all, it is that the world is connected. Be it airport networks that spread disease to our neighbors or how each group in each part of the world deals with loss of family members. What the world needs now is to believe in the ritual of the Irish Wake or the New Orleans Jazz funeral, and we encourage Music and Dance to be part of mourning those that were lost during the pandemic. Thank the nurses and doctors, thank Reddit and Twitter for the good years when things were fun, Thank Lemmy for open sourcing their code and implementing ActivePub - and let's all have a toast and share a song! Let us all meet at the pub and say thanks for ActivePub ;)

Music and songs are a great positive way to not make past frustrations with machines, Twitter renames, API money schemes, development processes, crashing servers linger. The "Better Angels of Our Nature" is to focus on the creativity and creative uses of ActivePub federation that has been have experienced! Support the Lemmy project's success, hope to provide a more useful participation, and put frustration from May 2023 to August 2023 behind us in a constructive and forward-looking creative way.

Thank you!
August 24, 2023

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