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de-flavors ur daily messages #1164

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About The Pull Request

Adjusts the daily tip messages to a.) make it abundantly obvious it isn't something to act upon b.) add some more for some FAQs c.) nixes some of the problematic messages that were confusing people, at the cost of soul or whatever.

I considered changing the font and all to make it something more subtle, but the daily tip message is tethered to the day text and decoupling it beyond my extremely minimal coding ability, and it's fine.

Why It's Good For The Game

listen when like eight people go complain about the tumor thing in a week it's getting thrown out

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feliniddotexe commented Jan 6, 2025

i'm gonna add a pref toggle for the daily tips sooner or later bc ppl complain abt them on the discord pretty regularly

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Agree on taking out the schizophrenic ones, those should be insanity messages instead though
Don't agree on making things overly explanative to the point it feels like tutorial messages

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i'm gonna add a pref toggle for these sooner or later bc ppl complain abt them on the discord pretty regularly

Feel like the lore ones are flavourful and I'd want to keep them, but, don't much like the tutorial-like messages, especially with how wordy they are in this PR

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Agree on taking out the schizophrenic ones, those should be insanity messages instead though Don't agree on making things overly explanative to the point it feels like tutorial messages

they're tips; they are tutorial messages.

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Hemlock32 commented Jan 6, 2025

Agree on taking out the schizophrenic ones, those should be insanity messages instead though Don't agree on making things overly explanative to the point it feels like tutorial messages

they're tips; they are tutorial messages.

That show for everyone regardless of hours played, though.
And, were flavoured to be IC, and, are mixed in with in-world lore messages

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Ollanius commented Jan 6, 2025

i'm gonna add a pref toggle for the daily tips sooner or later bc ppl complain abt them on the discord pretty regularly

The great filter.
With that being said, I really like the idea of tips being affected by your character's mood.
I believe we should keep the schizophrenic tips, but make it so that they only appear when your character's mood is below a certain threshold at the start of each day. Maybe it could be percentage-based? Being slightly peeved gives a very small chance, while being utterly fucking threshed (to the point of having the 'stressed out' debuff) makes it a guarantee.

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burgerenergy commented Jan 6, 2025

There's already separate stress out messages. You don't see them because your mood has to be absolutely tanked, which any reasonable player can avoid with ease.

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radarseas commented Jan 7, 2025

any chance of making the tip font more subtle rather than bold yellow, it can get very confusing with vampire telepathy.

in fact the messages often blend into telepathy. Its bugged me since its addition.


also a few more tips for the collection:

right clicking your UI, intents, skills, even the eye icon can do a lot like show your languages, your unique class traits, look for stealthed people, findout intent armor peircing and damage modifiers, reach and more.

staffs/polearms are useful for fast travel, but they won't help you travel faster in a combative stance, you're either parrying or running one with one.

leather isn't just about the repairability on the fly and being light armor, it has other uses in stealth too for it makes little noise. Useful for thieves, brigands, criminals and rangers of all kinds.

removing your shoes for sneaking around can make it nearly impossible to hear you, even without sneaking. However be wary of broken glass and the likes.

often a cautery works for removing rot from deadites or corpses, but also the divine mark of a psycross or amulet of the ten can also suffice for purging away the rot in surgery.

never underestimate being backed against something or someone in a fight, all it takes is a single kick to even the odds and turn the tables, even if your enemy is significantly weaker and less skilled than you.

@burgerenergy
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Unfortunately the text formatting is coupled with the day text (It's Thule's day etc) which while it would be possible to decouple, I am unfortunately not familiar enough with the code strings in question to do so comfortably. Ideally it's something a little more subtle tho.

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Lutowski commented Jan 7, 2025

keep the removed schizo messages as stress messages until we find a better place for it

okay with the additions, just not the removals (for soul)

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