Exceptions with a fresh start

[syepes]

Describe what's wrong
We should not be seeing Exceptions at startup time with a freshly new deployment.

How to reproduce
Freshly start proton without any previoues data

Error message and/or stacktrace

❯ docker logs -f proton
Processing configuration file '/etc/proton-server/config.yaml'.
Merging configuration file '/etc/proton-server/config.d/data-paths.xml'.
Merging configuration file '/etc/proton-server/config.d/docker_related_config.xml'.
Merging configuration file '/etc/proton-server/config.d/logger.xml'.
Merging configuration file '/etc/proton-server/config.d/openssl.xml'.
Merging configuration file '/etc/proton-server/config.d/user-directories.xml'.
Logging notice to /var/log/proton-server/proton-server.log
Logging errors to /var/log/proton-server/proton-server.err.log
2024.06.04 12:06:39.538070 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Context: Linux is not using a fast clock source. Performance can be degraded. Check /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/current_clocksource
2024.06.04 12:06:39.538720 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Context: Linux transparent hugepage are set to "always".
2024.06.04 12:06:39.540068 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Integrity check of the executable skipped because the reference checksum could not be read.
2024.06.04 12:06:39.548788 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> KeeperLogStore: No logs exists in /var/lib/proton/coordination/logs. It's Ok if it's the first run of proton-keeper.
2024.06.04 12:06:39.548962 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> MetaStateMachine: Fail to get rocksdb column families list at: /var/lib/proton/coordination : IO error: No such file or directory: While opening a file for sequentially reading: /var/lib/proton/coordination/CURRENT: No such file or directory
2024.06.04 12:06:39.589992 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> KeeperLogStore: Removing all changelogs
2024.06.04 12:06:39.592385 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> RaftInstance: invalid election timeout lower bound detected, adjusted to 0
2024.06.04 12:06:39.592425 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> RaftInstance: invalid election timeout upper bound detected, adjusted to 0
2024.06.04 12:06:39.644775 [ 56 ] {} <Warning> RaftInstance: Election timeout, initiate leader election
2024.06.04 12:06:39.646092 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Listen [::]:9444 failed: Poco::Exception. Code: 1000, e.code() = 0, DNS error: EAI: Address family for hostname not supported (version 1.5.10). If it is an IPv6 or IPv4 address and your host has disabled IPv6 or IPv4, then consider to specify not disabled IPv4 or IPv6 address to listen in <listen_host> element of configuration file. Example for disabled IPv6: <listen_host>0.0.0.0</listen_host> . Example for disabled IPv4: <listen_host>::</listen_host>
2024.06.04 12:06:39.665800 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Access(local directory): File /var/lib/proton/access/users.list doesn't exist
2024.06.04 12:06:39.665845 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Access(local directory): Recovering lists in directory /var/lib/proton/access/
2024.06.04 12:06:39.696333 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> TelemetryCollector: Please note that telemetry is disabled.
2024.06.04 12:06:39.781358 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Listen [::]:3218 failed: Poco::Exception. Code: 1000, e.code() = 0, DNS error: EAI: Address family for hostname not supported (version 1.5.10). If it is an IPv6 or IPv4 address and your host has disabled IPv6 or IPv4, then consider to specify not disabled IPv4 or IPv6 address to listen in <listen_host> element of configuration file. Example for disabled IPv6: <listen_host>0.0.0.0</listen_host> . Example for disabled IPv4: <listen_host>::</listen_host>
2024.06.04 12:06:39.781495 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Listen [::]:8123 failed: Poco::Exception. Code: 1000, e.code() = 0, DNS error: EAI: Address family for hostname not supported (version 1.5.10). If it is an IPv6 or IPv4 address and your host has disabled IPv6 or IPv4, then consider to specify not disabled IPv4 or IPv6 address to listen in <listen_host> element of configuration file. Example for disabled IPv6: <listen_host>0.0.0.0</listen_host> . Example for disabled IPv4: <listen_host>::</listen_host>
2024.06.04 12:06:39.781593 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Listen [::]:8463 failed: Poco::Exception. Code: 1000, e.code() = 0, DNS error: EAI: Address family for hostname not supported (version 1.5.10). If it is an IPv6 or IPv4 address and your host has disabled IPv6 or IPv4, then consider to specify not disabled IPv4 or IPv6 address to listen in <listen_host> element of configuration file. Example for disabled IPv6: <listen_host>0.0.0.0</listen_host> . Example for disabled IPv4: <listen_host>::</listen_host>
2024.06.04 12:06:39.781678 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Listen [::]:7587 failed: Poco::Exception. Code: 1000, e.code() = 0, DNS error: EAI: Address family for hostname not supported (version 1.5.10). If it is an IPv6 or IPv4 address and your host has disabled IPv6 or IPv4, then consider to specify not disabled IPv4 or IPv6 address to listen in <listen_host> element of configuration file. Example for disabled IPv6: <listen_host>0.0.0.0</listen_host> . Example for disabled IPv4: <listen_host>::</listen_host>
2024.06.04 12:06:39.781782 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Listen [::]:5432 failed: Poco::Exception. Code: 1000, e.code() = 0, DNS error: EAI: Address family for hostname not supported (version 1.5.10). If it is an IPv6 or IPv4 address and your host has disabled IPv6 or IPv4, then consider to specify not disabled IPv4 or IPv6 address to listen in <listen_host> element of configuration file. Example for disabled IPv6: <listen_host>0.0.0.0</listen_host> . Example for disabled IPv4: <listen_host>::</listen_host>
2024.06.04 12:06:39.781871 [ 1 ] {} <Warning> Application: Listen [::]:9363 failed: Poco::Exception. Code: 1000, e.code() = 0, DNS error: EAI: Address family for hostname not supported (version 1.5.10). If it is an IPv6 or IPv4 address and your host has disabled IPv6 or IPv4, then consider to specify not disabled IPv4 or IPv6 address to listen in <listen_host> element of configuration file. Example for disabled IPv6: <listen_host>0.0.0.0</listen_host> . Example for disabled IPv4: <listen_host>::</listen_host>
2024.06.04 12:06:44.215276 [ 33 ] {07d73e8a-b138-425c-8ed2-c007d334031d} <Error> executeQuery: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR) (version 1.5.10) (from 127.0.0.1:54612) (in query: show table )
2024.06.04 12:06:44.215699 [ 33 ] {07d73e8a-b138-425c-8ed2-c007d334031d} <Error> DynamicQueryHandler: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR), Stack trace (when copying this message, always include the lines below):

0. Poco::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int) @ 0x0000000017a655a0 in /usr/bin/proton
1. DB::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int, bool) @ 0x000000000fa28128 in /usr/bin/proton
2. DB::parseQueryAndMovePosition(DB::IParser&, char const*&, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e3334 in /usr/bin/proton
3. DB::parseQuery(DB::IParser&, char const*, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e33c4 in /usr/bin/proton
4. DB::executeQueryImpl(char const*, char const*, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, bool, DB::QueryProcessingStage::Enum, DB::ReadBuffer*) @ 0x0000000014e6a64c in /usr/bin/proton
5. DB::executeQuery(DB::ReadBuffer&, DB::WriteBuffer&, bool, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, std::__1::function<void (std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&)>, std::__1::optional<DB::FormatSettings> const&) @ 0x0000000014e6f0e8 in /usr/bin/proton
6. DB::HTTPHandler::processQuery(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTMLForm&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&, DB::HTTPHandler::Output&, std::__1::optional<DB::CurrentThread::QueryScope>&) @ 0x000000001557c870 in /usr/bin/proton
7. DB::HTTPHandler::handleRequest(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&) @ 0x000000001557fad8 in /usr/bin/proton
8. DB::HTTPServerConnection::run() @ 0x00000000155d1f34 in /usr/bin/proton
9. Poco::Net::TCPServerConnection::start() @ 0x000000001795c158 in /usr/bin/proton
10. Poco::Net::TCPServerDispatcher::run() @ 0x000000001795c6c4 in /usr/bin/proton
11. Poco::PooledThread::run() @ 0x0000000017ac74f8 in /usr/bin/proton
12. Poco::ThreadImpl::runnableEntry(void*) @ 0x0000000017ac4fa4 in /usr/bin/proton
13. start_thread @ 0x0000000000007624 in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libpthread-2.31.so
14. ? @ 0x00000000000d162c in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so
 (version 1.5.10)
2024.06.04 12:06:49.267497 [ 33 ] {9268fec0-f298-4551-aff2-33fd1ca7dd87} <Error> executeQuery: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR) (version 1.5.10) (from 127.0.0.1:36186) (in query: show table )
2024.06.04 12:06:49.267732 [ 33 ] {9268fec0-f298-4551-aff2-33fd1ca7dd87} <Error> DynamicQueryHandler: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR), Stack trace (when copying this message, always include the lines below):

0. Poco::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int) @ 0x0000000017a655a0 in /usr/bin/proton
1. DB::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int, bool) @ 0x000000000fa28128 in /usr/bin/proton
2. DB::parseQueryAndMovePosition(DB::IParser&, char const*&, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e3334 in /usr/bin/proton
3. DB::parseQuery(DB::IParser&, char const*, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e33c4 in /usr/bin/proton
4. DB::executeQueryImpl(char const*, char const*, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, bool, DB::QueryProcessingStage::Enum, DB::ReadBuffer*) @ 0x0000000014e6a64c in /usr/bin/proton
5. DB::executeQuery(DB::ReadBuffer&, DB::WriteBuffer&, bool, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, std::__1::function<void (std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&)>, std::__1::optional<DB::FormatSettings> const&) @ 0x0000000014e6f0e8 in /usr/bin/proton
6. DB::HTTPHandler::processQuery(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTMLForm&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&, DB::HTTPHandler::Output&, std::__1::optional<DB::CurrentThread::QueryScope>&) @ 0x000000001557c870 in /usr/bin/proton
7. DB::HTTPHandler::handleRequest(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&) @ 0x000000001557fad8 in /usr/bin/proton
8. DB::HTTPServerConnection::run() @ 0x00000000155d1f34 in /usr/bin/proton
9. Poco::Net::TCPServerConnection::start() @ 0x000000001795c158 in /usr/bin/proton
10. Poco::Net::TCPServerDispatcher::run() @ 0x000000001795c6c4 in /usr/bin/proton
11. Poco::PooledThread::run() @ 0x0000000017ac74f8 in /usr/bin/proton
12. Poco::ThreadImpl::runnableEntry(void*) @ 0x0000000017ac4fa4 in /usr/bin/proton
13. start_thread @ 0x0000000000007624 in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libpthread-2.31.so
14. ? @ 0x00000000000d162c in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so
 (version 1.5.10)
2024.06.04 12:06:54.315568 [ 33 ] {a7c2caf5-1496-4724-beb5-174e7fc24828} <Error> executeQuery: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR) (version 1.5.10) (from 127.0.0.1:41270) (in query: show table )
2024.06.04 12:06:54.316194 [ 33 ] {a7c2caf5-1496-4724-beb5-174e7fc24828} <Error> DynamicQueryHandler: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR), Stack trace (when copying this message, always include the lines below):

0. Poco::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int) @ 0x0000000017a655a0 in /usr/bin/proton
1. DB::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int, bool) @ 0x000000000fa28128 in /usr/bin/proton
2. DB::parseQueryAndMovePosition(DB::IParser&, char const*&, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e3334 in /usr/bin/proton
3. DB::parseQuery(DB::IParser&, char const*, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e33c4 in /usr/bin/proton
4. DB::executeQueryImpl(char const*, char const*, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, bool, DB::QueryProcessingStage::Enum, DB::ReadBuffer*) @ 0x0000000014e6a64c in /usr/bin/proton
5. DB::executeQuery(DB::ReadBuffer&, DB::WriteBuffer&, bool, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, std::__1::function<void (std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&)>, std::__1::optional<DB::FormatSettings> const&) @ 0x0000000014e6f0e8 in /usr/bin/proton
6. DB::HTTPHandler::processQuery(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTMLForm&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&, DB::HTTPHandler::Output&, std::__1::optional<DB::CurrentThread::QueryScope>&) @ 0x000000001557c870 in /usr/bin/proton
7. DB::HTTPHandler::handleRequest(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&) @ 0x000000001557fad8 in /usr/bin/proton
8. DB::HTTPServerConnection::run() @ 0x00000000155d1f34 in /usr/bin/proton
9. Poco::Net::TCPServerConnection::start() @ 0x000000001795c158 in /usr/bin/proton
10. Poco::Net::TCPServerDispatcher::run() @ 0x000000001795c6c4 in /usr/bin/proton
11. Poco::PooledThread::run() @ 0x0000000017ac74f8 in /usr/bin/proton
12. Poco::ThreadImpl::runnableEntry(void*) @ 0x0000000017ac4fa4 in /usr/bin/proton
13. start_thread @ 0x0000000000007624 in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libpthread-2.31.so
14. ? @ 0x00000000000d162c in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so
 (version 1.5.10)
2024.06.04 12:06:59.383667 [ 33 ] {3202609a-9e24-4c32-baad-e23502ef7014} <Error> executeQuery: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR) (version 1.5.10) (from 127.0.0.1:41280) (in query: show table )
2024.06.04 12:06:59.384050 [ 33 ] {3202609a-9e24-4c32-baad-e23502ef7014} <Error> DynamicQueryHandler: Code: 62. DB::Exception: Syntax error: failed at position 6 ('table'): table
. Expected one of: CREATE, CREATE, FILESYSTEM CACHES, CLUSTERS, CLUSTER, CHANGED, SETTINGS, TABLES, STREAMS, PROCESSLIST, FORMAT SCHEMAS, ACCESS, USERS, ROLES, QUOTAS, CURRENT ROLES, ENABLED ROLES, CURRENT QUOTA, QUOTA, GRANTS, PRIVILEGES. (SYNTAX_ERROR), Stack trace (when copying this message, always include the lines below):

0. Poco::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int) @ 0x0000000017a655a0 in /usr/bin/proton
1. DB::Exception::Exception(std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, int, bool) @ 0x000000000fa28128 in /usr/bin/proton
2. DB::parseQueryAndMovePosition(DB::IParser&, char const*&, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e3334 in /usr/bin/proton
3. DB::parseQuery(DB::IParser&, char const*, char const*, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, unsigned long, unsigned long) @ 0x00000000175e33c4 in /usr/bin/proton
4. DB::executeQueryImpl(char const*, char const*, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, bool, DB::QueryProcessingStage::Enum, DB::ReadBuffer*) @ 0x0000000014e6a64c in /usr/bin/proton
5. DB::executeQuery(DB::ReadBuffer&, DB::WriteBuffer&, bool, std::__1::shared_ptr<DB::Context>, std::__1::function<void (std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&, std::__1::basic_string<char, std::__1::char_traits<char>, std::__1::allocator<char>> const&)>, std::__1::optional<DB::FormatSettings> const&) @ 0x0000000014e6f0e8 in /usr/bin/proton
6. DB::HTTPHandler::processQuery(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTMLForm&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&, DB::HTTPHandler::Output&, std::__1::optional<DB::CurrentThread::QueryScope>&) @ 0x000000001557c870 in /usr/bin/proton
7. DB::HTTPHandler::handleRequest(DB::HTTPServerRequest&, DB::HTTPServerResponse&) @ 0x000000001557fad8 in /usr/bin/proton
8. DB::HTTPServerConnection::run() @ 0x00000000155d1f34 in /usr/bin/proton
9. Poco::Net::TCPServerConnection::start() @ 0x000000001795c158 in /usr/bin/proton
10. Poco::Net::TCPServerDispatcher::run() @ 0x000000001795c6c4 in /usr/bin/proton
11. Poco::PooledThread::run() @ 0x0000000017ac74f8 in /usr/bin/proton
12. Poco::ThreadImpl::runnableEntry(void*) @ 0x0000000017ac4fa4 in /usr/bin/proton
13. start_thread @ 0x0000000000007624 in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libpthread-2.31.so
14. ? @ 0x00000000000d162c in /usr/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/libc-2.31.so
 (version 1.5.10)

[chenziliang]

Hi @syepes what kind of query you run or during the boot, it throws ? From the log, it appears a syntax error (some breaking changes somewhere). If we can find out the query, it will be helpful. Thanks !