Create policy for students who cannot make Tuesday 4pm or Wednesday casual coding sessions

[kburk1997]

Description of Issue:

Next semester, we are tentatively doing away with the late small group and making students who cannot attend the Tuesday 4pm sessions go to Wednesday casual coding sessions. However, we have not accounted for students who cannot make either session.

Proposed Solution:

Here are a few ideas:

• Meet with mentor one-on-one to fulfill requirement
• If there is enough interest, restart the late small group

[vakrao]

I think we should have second session for late group specified in SIS. The work session requirement I think might have to be a Sunday thing then? Due to how lab courses having 4-6 as a popular timeslot Wednesday just might not work. Thoughts?

[kburk1997]

I've had a 3-6 circuits lab on Wednesday one semester, we definitely should rethink making casual coding sessions mandatory for those who can't make Tuesday 4pm, especially since ECSE students may take ECSE seminar and a lab course during the same semester (I remember taking IE with ECSE seminar)

[aeksco]

@Bad-Science and I discussed this - we both agreed that ditching the late session in favor of requiring attendance on Wednesday evenings would be sufficient.

@kburk1997 I'm personally of the opinion that if the student cannot attend either they simply won't be able to pursue RCOS for credit that semester. We're not obligated to accommodate everybody, and I think putting too many safety nets in place will ultimately complicate things. For example, hosting 1-to-1 sessions with mentors every week won't scale for either the student in question or their respective mentors.

@vakrao I don't think it's necessary to have a second session listed in SIS - we already have enough problems with SIS as it is with 2 CRNs - if we have a late group CRN, we'll need one for the 2000 and 4000 level courses respectively. Too much complexity IMHO.

I think our current system is sufficient for handling this - with the late group as small as it was last semester I think the Wednesday evening requirement should be sufficient. If students can't make either, they just can't pursue RCOS that semester - just like any other course that conflicts with their required schedule. I think there's always room to make an exception for specific motivated students who need an accommodation, but I don't think it's worth our time crafting policies to handle every possible edge case for the late group issue.

I think we can close this issue if everyone is in agreement @kburk1997 @vakrao @Bad-Science @AdrianCollado

[wdturner]

I think the Wednesday is workable. We do not need both. Wes

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On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 3:38 PM Alexander Schwartzberg < ***@***.***> wrote: @Bad-Science <https://github.com/Bad-Science> and I discussed this - we both agreed that ditching the late session in favor of requiring attendance on Wednesday evenings would be sufficient. @kburk1997 <https://github.com/kburk1997> I'm personally of the opinion that if the student cannot attend either they simply won't be able to pursue RCOS for credit that semester. We're not obligated to accommodate everybody, and I think putting too many safety nets in place will ultimately complicate things. For example, hosting 1-to-1 sessions with mentors every week won't scale for either the student in question or their respective mentors. @vakrao <https://github.com/vakrao> I don't think it's necessary to have a second session listed in SIS - we already have enough problems with SIS as it is with 2 CRNs - if we have a late group CRN, we'll need one for the 2000 and 4000 level courses respectively. Too much complexity IMHO. I think our current system is sufficient for handling this - with the late group as small as it was last semester I think the Wednesday evening requirement should be sufficient. If students can't make either, they just can't pursue RCOS that semester - just like any other course that conflicts with their required schedule. I think there's always room to make an exception for specific motivated students who need an accommodation, but I don't think it's worth our time crafting policies to handle every possible edge case for the late group issue. I think we can close this issue if everyone is in agreement @kburk1997 <https://github.com/kburk1997> @vakrao <https://github.com/vakrao> @Bad-Science <https://github.com/Bad-Science> @AdrianCollado <https://github.com/AdrianCollado> — You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#94 (comment)>, or mute the thread <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AChv67uhYXZQAjGd9OuXFPrtpGbC_HMgks5u7pg-gaJpZM4ZXSF1> .

[kburk1997]

@aeksco they could also pursue 1 or 2 credits and only attend the Friday sessions, but there's also the problem of them not having an assigned smallgroup