Deprecation of space throwing

[ianyh]

Due to changes Apple has made in macOS 15, Amethyst may no longer be able to support moving windows between native spaces. I don't currently know of a way outside of yabai's Dock injection to accomplish it, and I don't think that is the right way to go with this project. I understand and share the frustration. Amethyst is by no means going away, but I may need to deprecate this particular functionality.

I'm open to thoughts on how to approach the deprecation if anyone has feedback, or if anyone figures out a way to actually make it work, so I will leave comments open. I will be closing the relevant bugs, and redirecting them here.

[simonedamico]

ouch. It was my #1 reason for using amethyst

[mikalcallahan]

Hoping we can come up with an alternative way to move windows between spaces. Unlikely that Apple will expose an API for it but you never know

[miguelski]

i am using BetterTouchTool for now to accomplish this since the update.
i was hopping this can be fixed before my trial ends, but now i think i would need to purchase full version only for this feature

[rami3l]

Just to provide more context to this issue, Aerospace seems to have reinvented the "spaces" system themselves to overcome such restrictions... It's a disappointing move on Apple's side, really :(

[gkzhb]

There is a workaround #1643 (comment), and I managed to implement it with Hammerspoon (code commented below that issue #1643 (comment)).
But the workaround may not work for every situations and may not be robust.

[rwiankowski]

Really sorry to read that! I've been enjoying Amethyst for a while now and heavily relied on the throwing feature as part of my productivity setup. I'm seriously considering downgrading to Sonoma.

[ianyh]

It seems like people are having some luck with other solutions. I might look into incorporating some of those techniques. I'm dreading upgrading my work laptop.

[bogdan-calapod]

Fwiw i switched to aerospace due to this. I can't say I love the fact that it doesn't use MacOS spaces but it works 🤷‍♂️

[ianyh]

I revived some old code I had for moving windows between spaces without private APIs in a build if anyone wants to try. #1698

[ianyh]

Okay, I think I can make it work if people can enable the system shortcuts themselves—they aren't enabled by default and I can't find a way to manipulate them programmatically. They have default values that you can just enable, so I would only need more config info if they were changed from the default values.

[ianyh]

I can also track the starting space, so that would mean being able to go back to where you started after moving, but obviously that's horrifically slow.

[ianyh]

Actually, I take that back. I think I figured out how to look up the system shortcuts for switching between desktops, so I theoretically wouldn't need any configuration info, and I might be able to enable them directly.

[krvpal]

I have to admit I've been returning to this thread everyday in the hope there's a solution. I tried Aerospace but encountered some bugs and it doesn't do dynamic tiling. Really grateful for this project, it shows through when you realize the difference it has made to your workflow, and how disruptive it is when Apple pushes their breaking changes.

[rwiankowski]

Same here. Running Aerospace since the upgrade to Sequoia, and while I appreciate the creator's effort, I would rather go back to Amethyst.