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Certificates rejected with app saying system trusted enabled #18
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Interesting, thanks for the report @ThePedroo
This line means that it got root access, but then the cert seems to already be installed so it did nothing. Can you reboot the device, rerun the ADB setup, and then share the resulting logs? That should provide more details here about the actual certificate installation. You can see how the cert installation is supposed to work here: https://github.com/httptoolkit/httptoolkit-server/blob/a801ad5950bc8855072634a9c71355e16b7e7292/src/interceptors/android/adb-commands.ts#L256 In general, once the device is set up you should be able to find your CA cert within |
I'll give a try. I must also say that besides the automatic certificate injection, I also tried to do manual injection as I couldn't see it within Security tab. |
I'm unsure what you meant with Here are the logs from app startup till the finalization of setup: --- Launching HTTP Toolkit desktop v1.14.9 ---
INFO: Initialising UI (version d23b6a186d0c0e929fb5067a2e805e5a08540492)
INFO: Account store initialized
INFO: UI store initialized
INFO: Proxy settings loaded
INFO: Server initialization failed TypeError: Failed to fetch
INFO: API store initialized
INFO: Server initialization failed TypeError: Failed to fetch
INFO: Server initialization failed TypeError: Failed to fetch
INFO: Server initialization failed TypeError: Failed to fetch
Config checked in 37 ms
Certificates setup in 14 ms
Standalone server started in 10 ms
Server started in 28 ms
Total startup took 89 ms
(node:99873) Warning: Using insecure HTTP parsing
(Use `node --trace-warnings ...` to show where the warning was created)
Mock session started, http on port 8000, webrtc enabled
Docker not available: connect EACCES /var/run/docker.sock
INFO: Server started
Webextension installed at /tmp/httptoolkit-webextension
INFO: Config loaded
INFO: Server started on port 8000
INFO: Proxy store initialized (server version 1.14.9)
INFO: Rules store initialized
INFO: Events store initialized
INFO: Send store initialized
INFO: Interceptor store initialized
INFO: App started, rendering
httptoolkit-server: Updating CLI... fetching manifest
INFO: Service worker loaded
httptoolkit-server: Updating CLI... !
Browser cache updated
Android command [ 'sh', '/data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh' ] returned `shell`
Android command [ 'su', '-c', 'sh /data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh' ] returned `root`
Android command [ 'su', '-c', 'sh', '/data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh' ] returned `root`
Android command [ 'su', 'root', 'sh', '/data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh' ] threw Timeout for ADB command su,root,sh,/data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh
Error: Timeout for ADB command su,root,sh,/data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh
at /opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:19743
at runNextTicks (node:internal/process/task_queues:60:5)
at listOnTimeout (node:internal/timers:540:9)
at process.processTimers (node:internal/timers:514:7)
at async Promise.all (index 3)
at async e.getRootCommand (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:21622)
at async e.AndroidAdbInterceptor.injectSystemCertIfPossible (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:30549)
at async e.AndroidAdbInterceptor.activate (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:28377)
at async e.ApiModel.activateInterceptor (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:890:742658)
at async /opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:3509
at async /opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:2198
Android command [ 'su', 'root', 'sh /data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh' ] threw Timeout for ADB command su,root,sh /data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh
Error: Timeout for ADB command su,root,sh /data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh
at /opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:19743
at async Promise.all (index 4)
at async e.getRootCommand (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:21622)
at async e.AndroidAdbInterceptor.injectSystemCertIfPossible (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:30549)
at async e.AndroidAdbInterceptor.activate (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:28377)
at async e.ApiModel.activateInterceptor (/opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:890:742658)
at async /opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:3509
at async /opt/HTTP Toolkit/resources/httptoolkit-server/bundle/index.js:944:2198
Adding cert file as /data/local/tmp/4f74014f.0
Android command [ 'rm', '-f', '/data/local/tmp/htk-root-test.sh' ] returned ``
Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'message')
Failed to check for updates: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'message')
httptoolkit-server: Updating CLI... fetching manifest
INFO: Previous server version was 1.14.9
httptoolkit-server: Updating CLI... !
Error reporting timed out
Android command [ 'su', '-c', 'sh /data/local/tmp/htk-inject-system-cert.sh' ] returned `System cacerts setup completed
Injecting certificates into APEX cacerts
Zygote APEX certificates remounted
APEX certificates remounted for 108 apps
System cert successfully injected`
Cert injected
Android command [ 'su', '-c', 'sh /data/local/tmp/htk-set-chrome-flags.sh' ] returned `Chrome flags script completed`
Chrome flags script completed
Android command [ 'su', '-c', 'am force-stop com.android.chrome' ] returned ``
Android Chrome flags set
Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'statusCode')
Failed to check for updates: Cannot read properties of undefined (reading 'statusCode') |
Hmm, ok, that all looks broadly correct (except the 'check for updates' errors, but I think those are unrelated and unimportant). I assume that despite that, the HTTP Toolkit app says "System trusted enabled" but your apps still don't allow interception? This is very odd. Can you open an ADB shell, run That's should be the system directory used for CA certificates on this device, and AFAIK it should always be trusted if it's present there. If you look in the trusted system CA certificates UI (system certs, not user certs) within the Settings app (normally under Security -> Advanced -> Encryption & Credentials, or similar) do you see HTTP Toolkit's CA in there? Is it enabled? I'm not sure of the details of how KernelSU works, but one thing that could break this would be if it somehow messes around with the file system view used... To debug that further, you'd probably need to use a test app (either build your own, or use a terminal app) and then try to work out from there exactly what the app sees in those directories. Presumably (I guess???) it won't see the certificate in those folders, and that will cause this? It's really hard to know to be honest though. If you can have a dig around on your device, and see if those certificates exist, and see if there are any notable differences to how they're stored or how they appear from the POV of other apps, that will hopefully provide a clue to resolve this. |
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-rw-r--r-- 1 system system u:object_r:system_security_cacerts_file:s0 4695 1969-12-31 21:00 fde84897.0 About viewing via Settings in the phone, I can't find any certificate that has any Also, KernelSU works similar to Magisk, even some modules works on both, the difference is that it provides kernel based rooting. It doesn't really reach the file system, although it provides access to anything. I think since not even Settings can see the certificate, not even testing APPs will be able to see, but maybe you have a clue about what it is through the ls command. Thanks for the help anyway! |
Hmm - two interesting things here:
Point 2 definitely seems wrong, and we can probably fairly easily change (with some kind of 'detect the current label' logic) but if the certificate's not there at all then that's more surprising... One way to debug this further would be to try manually running the steps in the script, and try to work out why the certificate isn't visible in this directory. To do that:
At the end, use If it's there but still not working (e.g. not appearing in Settings on Android) it would be interested to try the |
Let's try some more options. After setup has completed, can you try running the below from a root ADB shell:
Does either of those help? Hopefully one does, because otherwise I think I'm a bit out of ideas now! With those complete, both directories should contain the certificate, with the exact same settings as any normal certificate on your device... In general, these directories should fully control certificate trust, unless there's something different about this certificate vs the others. Android's code powering this is pretty unambiguous that this is where certs come from: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/base/+/refs/heads/main/core/java/android/security/net/config/SystemCertificateSource.java. One thing you could try is rebooting the device, running Ah, one more idea! The Apex injection works by mounting that path in the mount namespace (basically isolated/containerized views of the mounted files) of the Zygote processes (zygote and zygote64 - the processes which launch apps) and all their children (all already running apps). Can you run |
Oh, and if this still doesn't work and you need a workaround, I'd suggest using the standard Android emulators instead. These are well-tested and widely used and should definitely work unless there's something truly weird going with some other detail of your setup (which would be quite interesting in itself). There's a full walkthrough for that here: https://httptoolkit.com/blog/inspect-any-android-apps-http/ |
I'll keep the emulator in mind, as this is only for my projects that require reverse engineering. Thanks! Also, I've tried your first commands. While it works -- both directories now contain the same amount of certificates -- it neither appears on the UI nor apps "like" it. I'm curious, should 2 other HTTP Toolkit certificates appear? One for VPN and other in the same place as the HTTP Toolkit should appear but in user section? |
No, there should only be one certificate that appears, in the system CA certificates section. A user cert should only be installed if system cert installation fails. The VPN very isn't required at all that's a different thing I think mostly used for VPN authentication. Did you try the Otherwise,do you have any other test devices? Can you reproduce this same behaviour elsewhere? I haven't seen this before, but maybe if we can find multiple devices with the same issue we can work out what triggers this. |
Here's the USER PID PPID VSZ RSS WCHAN ADDR S NAME
root 1 0 12572768 5332 do_epoll_+ 0 S init
root 2 0 0 0 kthreadd 0 S [kthreadd]
root 3 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [rcu_gp]
root 4 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [rcu_par_gp]
root 8 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mm_percpu_w+
root 10 2 0 0 rcu_tasks+ 0 S [rcu_tasks_k+
root 11 2 0 0 rcu_tasks+ 0 S [rcu_tasks_t+
root 12 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/0]
root 13 2 0 0 rcu_gp_fq+ 0 I [rcu_preempt]
root 14 2 0 0 rcu_boost+ 0 S [rcub/0]
root 15 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/0]
root 16 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/0]
root 17 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/0]
root 18 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/1]
root 19 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/1]
root 20 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/1]
root 21 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/1]
root 24 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/2]
root 25 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/2]
root 26 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/2]
root 27 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/2]
root 30 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/3]
root 31 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/3]
root 32 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/3]
root 33 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/3]
root 36 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/4]
root 37 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/4]
root 38 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/4]
root 39 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/4]
root 42 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/5]
root 43 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/5]
root 44 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/5]
root 45 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/5]
root 48 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/6]
root 49 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/6]
root 50 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/6]
root 51 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/6]
root 54 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [cpuhp/7]
root 55 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [migration/7]
root 56 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [rcuc/7]
root 57 2 0 0 smpboot_t+ 0 S [ksoftirqd/7]
root 60 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [netns]
root 69 2 0 0 kauditd_t+ 0 S [kauditd]
root 70 2 0 0 watchdog 0 S [khungtaskd]
root 71 2 0 0 oom_reaper 0 S [oom_reaper]
root 72 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [writeback]
root 73 2 0 0 kcompactd 0 S [kcompactd0]
root 118 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kblockd]
root 119 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [blkcg_punt_+
root 120 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [edac-poller]
root 121 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [devfreq_wq]
root 122 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [watchdogd]
root 145 2 0 0 0 0 R [kswapd0]
root 147 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [erofs_worke+
root 156 2 0 0 deferred_+ 0 S [dmabuf-defe+
root 157 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [uas]
root 158 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [uether]
root 159 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [dm_bufio_ca+
root 161 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ipv6_addrco+
root 164 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [acpm_update+
root 165 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/107-119+
root 166 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/151-s2m+
root 167 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/152-s2m+
root 168 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/153-s2m+
root 169 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/154-s2m+
root 170 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/155-s2m+
root 171 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/156-s2m+
root 172 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/157-s2m+
root 173 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/158-s2m+
root 174 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/159-s2m+
root 175 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/160-s2m+
root 176 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/161-s2m+
root 177 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/162-s2m+
root 178 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/163-s2m+
root 179 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/164-s2m+
root 180 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/165-s2m+
root 181 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/166-s2m+
root 182 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/167-s2m+
root 183 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/168-s2m+
root 184 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/169-s2m+
root 185 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/170-s2m+
root 186 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/171-s2m+
root 187 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/172-s2m+
root 188 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/173-s2m+
root 189 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/174-exy+
root 190 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/123-118+
root 196 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [sec_audio_d+
root 197 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [sec_abc_wq]
root 198 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [typec_manag+
root 199 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [typec_manag+
root 200 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/292-117+
root 201 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/293-117+
root 202 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/294-117+
root 203 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/295-117+
root 204 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/296-117+
root 205 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/297-117+
root 206 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/298-117+
root 207 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/299-117+
root 208 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/300-117+
root 209 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/301-117+
root 210 2 0 0 exynos_dm+ 0 S [fast_switch+
root 211 2 0 0 exynos_dm+ 0 S [fast_switch+
root 212 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [thermal_BIG]
root 213 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [thermal_hot+
root 214 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [thermal_LIT+
root 215 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [thermal_G3D]
root 216 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [thermal_ISP]
root 217 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [thermal_NPU]
root 218 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [thermal_CP]
root 219 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [fast_switch+
root 220 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [fast_switch+
root 221 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [g3d_dvfs]
root 222 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kbase_job_f+
root 224 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 225 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 226 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 227 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 228 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 229 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 230 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 231 2 0 0 devfreq_c+ 0 S [simpleinter+
root 232 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [cpif_tpmon_+
root 233 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [cpif_tpmon_+
root 234 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [shmem_tx_wq]
root 235 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/177-tza+
root 236 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/178-tza+
root 237 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/179-ppm+
root 238 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/180-ppm+
root 239 2 0 0 add_hwgen+ 0 S [hwrng]
root 240 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/62-14c5+
root 241 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/63-14c5+
root 242 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/64-1511+
root 243 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/65-1511+
root 244 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [abox_ipc]
root 245 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/66-1514+
root 246 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/67-1514+
root 247 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/68-1517+
root 248 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/69-1517+
root 249 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/70-151a+
root 250 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/71-151a+
root 251 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/72-1558+
root 252 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/73-1558+
root 253 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/74-1548+
root 254 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/75-1548+
root 255 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/76-153a+
root 256 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/77-153a+
root 257 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [abox_qos]
root 258 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/78-153d+
root 260 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/79-153d+
root 261 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/80-12cd+
root 262 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/81-12cd+
root 263 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/82-10b5+
root 264 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/83-10b5+
root 265 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/84-10b8+
root 266 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/85-10b8+
root 267 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/86-1490+
root 268 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/87-1490+
root 269 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/88-149d+
root 270 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/89-149d+
root 271 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/90-1568+
root 272 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/91-1568+
root 274 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/92-156b+
root 275 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/93-156b+
root 276 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/94-12e7+
root 277 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/95-12e7+
root 279 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [panel0:disp+
root 280 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [panel0:pcd]
root 281 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [panel0:err-+
root 282 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [panel0:conn+
root 283 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [panel0:pane+
root 284 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [panel0:pane+
root 285 2 0 0 panel_vrr+ 0 S [panel-vrr-b+
root 286 2 0 0 panel_bl_+ 0 S [panel-bl-th+
root 288 2 0 0 dmabuf_rb+ 0 S [rbin]
root 289 2 0 0 dmabuf_rb+ 0 S [rbin_shrink]
root 290 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [crtc0_kthre+
root 291 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [crtc1_kthre+
root 292 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [card0-crtc0]
root 293 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [card0-crtc1]
root 294 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wq_vsync]
root 295 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wq_fsync]
root 296 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wq_dispon]
root 297 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wq_panel_pr+
root 298 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [log_collect+
root 299 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [failure_wq]
root 300 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [syserr_reco+
root 301 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [fm_client_w+
root 302 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 303 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 304 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 305 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 306 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 307 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 308 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 309 2 0 0 tz_worker+ 0 D [tz_worker_t+
root 310 2 0 0 tz_iwsock+ 0 D [ree_time]
root 311 2 0 0 tz_iwlog_+ 0 D [tz_iwlog_th+
root 312 2 0 0 tz_iwsock+ 0 D [tz_iwsock]
root 314 2 0 0 tz_iwsock+ 0 D [connecting_+
root 315 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wifilogger]
root 316 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wifilogger]
root 317 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wifilogger]
root 318 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [wifilogger]
root 321 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [cfg80211]
root 322 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [conn_logger]
root 323 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [usb_notify]
root 324 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [s2mpu13-wqu+
root 325 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/306-s2m+
root 326 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [power-keys-+
root 327 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [s2mpu14-wqu+
root 328 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/353-sec+
root 329 2 0 0 scsi_erro+ 0 S [scsi_eh_0]
root 330 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [scsi_tmf_0]
root 331 2 0 0 ufs_perf_+ 0 D [ufs_perf_0]
root 332 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ufs_eh_wq_0]
root 333 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ufs_clk_gat+
root 334 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [usb_int_qos+
root 335 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [usb_tpmon_w+
root 337 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/393-sm5+
root 338 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [SEC_WB_wq]
root 348 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [srpmb_wq]
root 349 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [samsung_mob+
root 350 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [sm5714-char+
root 351 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [pdic_irq_ev+
root 352 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/394-sm5+
root 354 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mfc/inst_mi+
root 355 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mfc/butler]
root 356 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/395-12e+
root 357 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mfc_core/me+
root 358 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mfc_core/id+
root 359 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mfc_core/bu+
root 360 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mfc_core/qo+
root 361 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [dw-mci-card]
root 362 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [dw_mci_clk_+
root 363 2 0 0 handle_lo+ 0 D [chub_log_kt+
root 364 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/268-11a+
root 365 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [npu_exynos]
root 366 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [fingerprint+
root 367 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [bootc_wq]
root 368 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [sm5451-PD-D+
root 369 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/398-cer+
root 370 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/397-hal+
root 371 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/399-SX9+
root 372 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [sec_vibrato+
root 373 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [pass-throug+
root 374 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [shub_dev_wq]
root 375 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [shub_debug_+
root 377 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [sec_input_i+
root 378 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [mmc_complet+
root 379 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [goodix_ts_i+
root 380 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/400-goo+
root 381 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/401-tfa+
root 382 2 0 0 irq_wait_+ 0 S [irq/402-tfa+
root 388 2 0 0 kjournald2 0 S [jbd2/sda26-+
root 389 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 390 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 391 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 392 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 393 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 394 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 395 2 0 0 issue_dis+ 0 S [f2fs_discar+
root 396 2 0 0 issue_dis+ 0 S [f2fs_discar+
root 397 2 0 0 issue_dis+ 0 S [f2fs_discar+
root 398 2 0 0 issue_dis+ 0 S [f2fs_discar+
root 399 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 400 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 403 1 12484332 1508 do_sys_po+ 0 S init
root 404 1 12445036 2988 do_sys_po+ 0 S ueventd
root 421 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 422 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 423 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 424 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 425 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 426 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 427 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 428 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 429 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 430 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 432 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 433 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 434 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 435 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 437 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 440 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 441 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 444 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 446 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 447 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 449 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 452 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 453 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [kdmflush]
root 463 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [loop0]
root 464 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [loop1]
root 465 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [loop2]
root 466 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [loop3]
root 467 2 0 0 kthread_w+ 0 S [loop4]
root 469 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 470 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 471 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 472 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 473 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 475 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [tfa98xx]
root 476 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [tfacal]
root 478 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [tfa98xx]
root 479 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [tfacal]
root 480 1 12572768 584 __arm64_s+ 0 S init
prng_seeder 488 1 12423664 2008 do_epoll_+ 0 S prng_seeder
root 490 2 0 0 worker_th+ 0 I [kworker/5:1+
logd 496 1 12626808 7852 __do_sys_+ 0 S logd
lmkd 497 1 12414456 2824 do_epoll_+ 0 S lmkd
system 498 1 12537524 2472 do_epoll_+ 0 S servicemanag+
system 499 1 12405428 2444 do_epoll_+ 0 S hwserviceman+
system 500 1 12521176 1952 do_epoll_+ 0 S vndservicema+
root 502 2 0 0 0 0 R [psimon]
root 515 1 12388380 1420 __arm64_s+ 0 S watchdogd
root 516 1 12722348 2968 binder_wa+ 0 S vold
root 518 2 0 0 kjournald2 0 S [jbd2/sda34-+
root 519 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
root 522 2 0 0 kjournald2 0 S [jbd2/sda1-8]
root 523 2 0 0 rescuer_t+ 0 I [ext4-rsv-co+
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I'm not in a hurry though, I only made this issue I want to help the project. I could easily get an emulator but I don't see why not helping if it's possible |
I haven't commented: If I give HTTPToolkit app, it says the certificate is system-trusted, but if it's unrooted, it says it's not. EDIT: Seems like giving root permission to the app makes it trust the certificate (???) I'll use this as a workaround as YouTube doesn't detect rooting, but this is definetely interesting. |
This is very interesting! What's happening is that we mount a tmpfs directory containing the modified set of certificate files inside the mount namespace of each target app process (and also the system more widely). My best guess is that for some reason, the apps can't actually see these files regardless, because there's some other isolation between the apps and the 'real' filesystem from the point of view of the ADB shell. One thing that would definitely cause this is if the rooting mechanism is changing what files the app can see at some other level (not just changing the apps permissions, but showing it an entirely different version of the same paths). There's a lot of ways that could work though and I don't know anything about KernelSU's internals. The https://kernelsu.org/ website do make it clear that it can do something broadly like this, using overlayfs to modify the view of the filesystem generally:
I think this is the point where we need to talk to the KernelSU team, and work out how this actually works under the hood and what we can do to integrate with that. I'll open an issue there. |
That's wonderful to know. kSU implements rooting in a way that can be the future of more sophisticated Android rooting. Adding support for it is wonderful! Thanks! |
So the best solution for now is to display a warning for kSU users to disable "unmount all apps by default". I still didn't test if it works that way though, but probably yes. |
In your ADB shell, are any of the vars from https://kernelsu.org/guide/module.html#variables set? Or is there anything else related to kSU if you run The general challenge is that it's actually going to be quite difficult to detect this. Anywhere where HTTP Toolkit is running as root, everything works fine, and when it's not then nothing works but it's not clear why (because rooting techniques like this carefully hide their changes from running apps by design). There are solutions, but working out which one specifically is the right choice is challenging... I'm going to do some more testing and investigating, but I'm hoping that my last comment on the KernelSU repo eventually leads us towards some kind of solution. In the meantime though, yes I think disabling "unmount all apps by default" is the correct workaround. It would be very helpful if you could test that and confirm though when you have a minute. |
Weirdly, no, none of those variables are set. If HTTPToolkit can't see which is the rooting method: display an option of kSU or Magisk, and if the person presses kSU, display a guide for them talking about the need of unmounting apps. HTTPToolkit shouldn't umount apps automatically, as the kSU owner said, can lead to root being detected by apps. So it's better to just knowledge the user & let it decide. I've also tested and works flawlessly umounting the apps. |
Yeah, I think it looks those are set for installed kSU modules, but presumably not accessible to the ADB shell then. That's quite unfortunate! Unless there's another mechanism somewhere, that might mean that detecting kSU via ADB is impossible.
I'd really rather not. Right now, the main value of the tool is that it 'just works' with zero interaction or setup required, so I really don't want to add a whole extra manual set that would affect all users (since this would have to show even for Magisk users - the vast majority - where no setup is required). If you can find a way to detect kSU via ADB then I'm open to exploring some options to use that, but otherwise manual setup like this isn't great tbh. I've done some looking at it seems the usage of kSU is really tiny compared to Magisk, so for now overall the better result is leaving it broken to avoid breaking the Magisk workflow (even though I know that's very frustrating!) I do think there are good options (see my last comment on the kSU issue) but there's been no other response there from the kSU team. What device are you using for testing? I can see a list of officially-unsupported-but-maybe-working devices, but no actual list of officially supported devices. Any idea what the cheapest 2nd hand device I could buy to test KernelSU would be? It would be good to be able to look at this more closely myself to find some options. Are you open to helping test the
That should leave you in a state where normal apps (without root access) do trust the CA certificate. In fact, I think it might mean that only normal apps trust it (while rooted apps do not). Will be interesting anyway, even just seeing the file appearing on disk in the cert directory unlike before would be helpful. I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't quite work first try, but any errors you can share would also be very useful. This approach is a bit weird, and doing it manually like this might leave your device in a strange place while that's running (between the two mount move commands, you've sort of disabled KernelSU's overlay filesystem from ADB's point of view). All these mount changes are temporary though, so if anything goes wrong you can always reset it all by rebooting your device. |
Technically any device with modern Linux is supported. Currently, I'm using ExynosUnbound kernel with a Samsung Galaxy A53 5g (E version)
I'll give a try soon, I've lost my cable (I'm very sorry for the delay, I actually forgot to respond twice, my apologies!) |
Also, I must point out that without giving the app Also, should I try those commands with unmounting or without unmounting? |
Yep! Of course it would be neat if that worked, but yes it's OK that it might not because it'll generally result in a prompt on the device that should be obvious to the user (Magisk pops up a "root required by adb shell" toast, for example). And if that doesn't work, HTTP Toolkit will also try
I'm not sure exactly what you mean. The commands above should be the whole full list to follow for a fresh device (e.g. after a reboot). The idea is basically just: use |
adb root won't work for most Magisk & kSU devices, as for ROMs that try to fake not being rooted,
kSU is unmount by default -- not unmounting is dangerous though, but makes it work. In the case I suppose it's with the default, which is unmount by default. I'll give a try. |
a53x:/ # mkdir /system-moved
mkdir: '/system-moved': Read-only file system I'm unsure if I'm missing something here, but I also believe / itself is read-only, no? |
Ah, yes - this will be possible but that means you'll need to set up the mountpoint somewhere else, and there might be other issues... All surmountable, but it's a bit tricky. I've just found a good test device at a reasonable price, so I'm going to set that up and investigate this myself. I appreciate the help and thanks again for reporting this issue, but I think trying to debug this line by line back and forth like this is going to much slower & trickier than being able to see it all myself up close! I should have the device here later this week, and then I'll set up KernelSU and start working on it next week, watch this space. |
Awesome! Thanks for the support. If anything, let me know |
Took much longer than I expected - but I do now have a working test device with KernelSU installed! Unfortunately, in my case, it all seems to work as expected 😆 that makes it a bit tricky to fix this. I'm testing using an A33 5G with ExynosUnbound (kernel All I've done is enable root access for the shell, and then run HTTP Toolkit's ADB setup, and it seems to work and I can immediately see traffic from e.g. Google Maps, Youtube, etc (which isn't visible without system interception). And the cert appears in the device certificate settings, and the HTTP Toolkit app says it's installed, even without it having root access. I'll keep testing, but let me know if there's anything I'm missing or if you have any ideas. |
However I'm confused, did you turn on the setting to make kSU umount any modifications by default? Also, which Zygisk are you using? I was using the official ZygiskNext by the time I created the issue, but now I use a fork of it as they closed its source in the next released. |
No - umounting is enabled like normal (just using the default settings) and it works perfectly! Seems like the KernelSU mounting issue may have been a red herring, and actually HTTP Toolkit's mount setup does normally persist despite that configuration.
I'm not using Zygisk or anything else at all. Literally just flashed ExynosUnbound, enabled root for the shell process, and HTTP Toolkit ADB setup seems to work straight away. Can you share the exact Zygisk version you're using and the specific steps you followed to set it up? Would be good to test that too, maybe that's the real problem here. |
Soo.. how can I say this... the fork of ZygiskNext I used stop existing... So, I'll link the zip I used in mine, but using the original Zygisk Next, last release as open source should work fine if you don't want to use the zip. |
I set up ZygiskNext, using that specific version, and I've tested everything I can think of, and it all still works perfectly in my case. For example I can:
Anything else I should test? Anything else unusual installed on your device that could cause this? Any other apps using root or device configuration or anything like that? Really all seems to be working fine here when using just KernelSU + ZygiskNext. As an extreme case, it would be interesting to reflash your phone, and then set it back up from scratch, check it works just like mine, and then try to see what breaks this process... I understand if you don't want to wipe your working phone though, that would be a lot of hassle. Anyway, I'm very happy to investigate further, but for now it really does look like KernelSU actually works just fine and there's no issues I can reproduce here. |
Interesting.. I don't think it's specific to my device as kernelSU owner itself didn't deny that this would indeed happen.. weird. I don't use much modules myself, and the most aggressive one I can think is PIF, which shouldn't modify anything related to certificates (maybe LSPosed for Zygisk?). Since the start of this issue, I accidentally killed my ROM few times, so I had to re-flash both partially and fully, however still nowadays I need to disable umount by default. It would be pretty interesting to investigate further how apps are seeing those changes made even though ksu should be umounting them. |
Can you share links to all the modules you're using? Preferably the exact versions. I think the umount behaviour depends on how mounts are used within the modules themselves, so reproducing that configuration is probably what's missing. |
Some of them I don't have the URLs anymore, others are from Telegram. This is a full list of modules I use (later I'll update with links)
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I'm extremely sorry for the delay, I updated with the links of the ones I could find. Most relevant ones I couldn't find are just forks, and the original implementation should have the same results |
Thanks @ThePedroo. Unfortunately I still can't reproduce this. I think it's not related to modules - my best bet is that somehow we're using a slightly different kernel versions/ROMs and mine has broken this somehow maybe? I've tested with a separate terminal app (with umount enabled, as default) and https://github.com/symbuzzer/systemless-hosts-KernelSU-module and I can clearly see the mount for that module so something is just not working correctly at all. That definitely shouldn't appear. Very frustrating though! I'd really like to avoid rebuilding the entire kernel for myself to test this 😆 Can you share a screenshot of the home page in your kernelSU app? That should show the exact kernel & kernelsu app versions. Do you know exactly where your ROM came from and which version it is? |
Also, it's important to note out this is UnboundKernel however built in newer versions of kSU. This shouldn't make any difference as by the time I made the issue I was using the official one. Edit while I was typing this: I'm unsure if it's because of the kernel which I changed (or ROM?), but seems like it does work without unmounting apps, which is curious.. EDIT: About the ROM, I was using OST's ROM in its most recent version (by the time I'm typing this) |
(Also, this may be related to a previous broken installation of the OS maybe? Although if it were to break something, I highly doubt it would only affect a small part of the system) |
Hi, hope this helps. I cloned magisk module from reqable app and replace the required file. I've tried it and it works (System Trusted Enabled - Check) Just install as module (please be sure that zygisk module installed), and reboot. |
We can get httptoolkit to work with just not umounting. The issue relies on it reverting the app's state if it is meant to be umounted. A "solution" could be force changing default umount state:
And warning the user about the change |
Hello.
I'm trying to use HTTPToolkit, together with KernelSU. I've installed the app, granted root permissions via ksu app to both shell and the app itself, opened the desktop app and clicked the connect via adb, Android.
However, it still doesn't capture, giving certificates rejected for anything besides Chrome.
Here are the logs:
As said in the logs, root is available.
Android 14, A53 5G with custom OneUI ROM.
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