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BM, BAPR and BAL aren't train prot systems #154

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besentv opened this issue Nov 27, 2024 · 3 comments
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BM, BAPR and BAL aren't train prot systems #154

besentv opened this issue Nov 27, 2024 · 3 comments

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besentv commented Nov 27, 2024

These shouldn't be shown here. Yes, there are documented tags for these, but they aren't train protection systems nevertheless, but rather a form of operation.

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hiddewie commented Dec 8, 2024

Some of the pink systems were indeed documented on the wiki but not tagged.

We can remove them.

Maybe the wiki should also be updated then, especially because the list of train protection systems in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenRailwayMap/Tagging#Train_protection_systems is used in the proposal https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:Railway:train_protection for the new tag railway:train_protection.

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hiddewie commented Dec 8, 2024

For example one rail line just within France (from Hagenau) is tagged with

railway:bapr = yes
railway:kvb = yes

(see https://overpass-turbo.eu/?w=%22railway%3Abapr%22%3D*+global&R). How would you propose to tag such a line?

Maybe the tagging legend could be split into "train protection systems" and "block control systems".

The SNCF data portal has "mode de cantonnement" (somewhat translated into partitioning mode) defined:

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See https://data.sncf.com/explore/dataset/mode-de-cantonnement-des-lignes/map/?location=12,48.83738,7.65713&basemap=jawg.transports

And separately the KVB equipped lines: https://data.sncf.com/explore/dataset/lignes-equipees-de-kvb/map/?location=12,48.85997,7.57782&basemap=jawg.transports

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Part of #154

Some of these are not used at all, or are not train protection systems.
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hiddewie commented Dec 8, 2024

This will be cleaned up with #164.

I will then convert the issue to a discussion for further display / tagging discussion.

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Part of #154

Some of these are not tagged at all, or are not train protection
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@hiddewie hiddewie converted this issue into discussion #166 Dec 8, 2024

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