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Kicad files #2

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JimReagans opened this issue Mar 14, 2024 · 8 comments
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Kicad files #2

JimReagans opened this issue Mar 14, 2024 · 8 comments

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@JimReagans
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I have the latest Kicad files but can't seem to open your files. What version did you use? A PDF of parts lay out might be really nice!

@dawsonjon
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Hi, good idea! Have added a parts layout here: https://github.com/dawsonjon/PicoRX/blob/master/PCB/pico_rx/component_layout.pdf

Not quite sure which version of Kicad I used originally, but I'm using Kicad7 to work on them and haven't had any issues.

@JimReagans
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JimReagans commented Mar 15, 2024 via email

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JimReagans commented Mar 16, 2024 via email

@dawsonjon
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Hi Jim,
Very pleased to hear that you have got it running! Best of luck with your testing!

Many Thanks
Jon 2E0GXA

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JimReagans commented Mar 17, 2024 via email

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Only one issue remains: receiving CW on the SSB portion of 20 meter band. (listening 14.237mHz, hearing 14.037) It seems to be a spur from the bottom of the 20 meter band. Otherwise the radio works well!

@dawsonjon
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Hi,

That sounds similar to this issue: dawsonjon/PicoRX#3. There are two possible causes.

One possibility is images, caused by an imbalance in I and Q, in the linked example, the Q channel wasn't working at all. You could check for this by comparing the signal level on the I and Q input to the ADC, they should be about equal. If this is the problem, you would expect the signals to have the same signal strength at either frequency.

If this does turn out to be an imbalance in the I/Q channel, I would be interested to know which IC you were using in the Tayloe detector, I suspect that the root cause was a signal integrity issue and I am considering revising the design to include some termination.

The other possibility is aliasing which is a limitation in the current design. The ADC in the pi-pico doesn't have any anti-aliasing filters, and we are relying on the Tayloe detector to remove out of band signals. The Tayloe detector is effectively a second order low pass filter so only has a roll-off of about 12dB/octave. This means that a signal close to, but outside the 250kHz bandwidth would only be attenuated by a couple of S-points.

Thanks very much for your feedback on your build, its been very useful to get another perspective :-)

Kind regards
Jon

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JimReagans commented Mar 18, 2024 via email

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