mini ep 請去收你的e-mail【代表什麼？】.mp3-字幕.srt

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SoundOn

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被駭的交易所又發了一則

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訊息

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給駭客寫了一句話

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please check

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your EMAIL

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這個就恐怖了

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為什麼

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表示交易所可能已經知道他是誰了

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科技創新

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娛樂

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各種新奇有趣都在寶博

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朋友說

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你聽寶博朋友說了嗎

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Hello

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歡迎來到寶博朋友說

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我是葛如鈞寶博士

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第29集地表最強駭客的這一集

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很開心

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廣受好評

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也獲得不少的反饋

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感謝大家

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我們之後可能還會陸續製作這些

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所謂的科技世界的奇人傳

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請大家敬請期待了

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我們今天會有一個迷你

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episode迷你集

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是因為我們要講一個在最近發生

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的一個非常有趣的事件

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在區塊鏈發生了一個價值7.5億

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台幣的

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已經幾乎像搶劫的事件了

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而且到最後搶匪退還了贓款

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到底怎麼發生的

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我們就想要來跟大家聊聊

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準備好了嗎

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我們即將進入探秘系列

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4月19號有一個叫

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dForce公司

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dForce是中國最大的

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去中心化的平台之一

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他們在之前創建了一個我們講

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defi decentralize

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finance去中心化的借貸

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協議

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叫lendf

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.me 在19號的時候遭到

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駭客攻擊

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是4月19號的時候

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在動區上面

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他中文標題：突發！

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dForce證實lendf.me超過99

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percent的資產

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相當台幣7.5億

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遭駭創辦人楊民道

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請大家現在不要再存款進來

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當時其實是一個非常巨大的新聞

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了

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網路上就開始有很多不同的聲浪

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在twitter上面就有一個

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Compound

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也是一個非常知名的去中心化的

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借貸協議的

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關係人就開始嘲笑

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甚至是在批評 dForce

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說你們偷用人家的協議的合約

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總算現在嘗到苦果了

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你們沒有能力去維護這樣的平台

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會遇到這樣的事情也是很正常的吧

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這樣

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然後底下就會有了一些酸民 老外

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就酸民就在底下講說

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會取這種名字的服務

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我本來就不看好了這樣

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因為大家英文夠好的

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就知道lendf你知道f在

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英文裡面都不是很好的意思

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我覺得有點

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Lend F(xxk) .me 這樣

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其實19號發生的攻擊

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為什麼老外會覺得很看輕

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怎麼講

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有點批評

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然後有點不是很爽

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dforce平台是因為4月

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18號的時候

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uniswap我們節目中

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也介紹過

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是我最喜歡的一個去中心化應用

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之一

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也遭受到同樣的攻擊

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攻擊手法

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其實有點像是我們來舉一個例子

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來講

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這件事情很像什麼了

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他是說有一點像

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你走到銀行裡面

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你去領錢

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然後銀行行員就會問你說你現在

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有多少錢

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他就會刷你的簿子

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然後就看這個企劃明真

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現在有100塊

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你就說我要把100塊領出來

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他就去領了

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可是他在去領的過程當中還沒有

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把錢給你

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然後這個時候簿子也還沒更新

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還沒減100

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對不對

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然後不知道什麼原因

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你成了閃電俠

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你就光速跑到另外一個銀行裡面

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然後找另外一個行員說我要領

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100塊

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那麼行員也刷你的簿子

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或者可能不是實體的簿子

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他可能查系統

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看你有100塊

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然後他就去領了

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那100塊出來給你

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然後你在光速去另外一個分行

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然後所以好多個分行都同時知道

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你要領100塊

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然後因為都沒有更新

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不知道什麼原因了

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然後他們都各自領了錢出來

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這樣等到他們要拿給你的時候

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你可能就一次把這個款項收齊了

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但他當然你可能會覺得哪有那麼

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多個分行的行員那麼笨

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總而言之

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他這一次他的做法有點像他到a

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分行去領錢

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還沒結算的時候

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他就到b分行去領錢

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然後領完以後

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總之他就會變兩倍的錢

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然後兩倍的錢出來

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再用兩倍的錢

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因為餘額變兩倍了再進去

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然後又出來一次又變兩倍

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它我們講說這叫合約上一個重入

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攻擊

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重新的重入攻擊

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其實重入攻擊在銀行

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我們剛剛的光速去銀行領錢很像

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想知道細節的人

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我就先講到這裡啊

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因為最有趣的地方不在

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細節

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最有趣的地方也不在這個金額

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多少

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金額其實很大

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7.5億台幣

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被領空

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因為你的錢被偷走了

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然後帳本上都有記錄

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會記錄到說你的錢被某一個帳號

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提走了

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總而言之

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留下了一個提款記錄

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Ok

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所以你知道這個人是壞人

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因為他光速領錢

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所以最後一筆錢就蠻大的

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這樣子

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有趣的地方是當駭客事件發生

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以後

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交易所就轉了一筆帳給駭客

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然後留下了一個記錄

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並且使用了區塊鏈帳本上的一個

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功能

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叫附言

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有點像

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我們去銀行轉帳可以註記

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你可以寫一段話

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大家知道嗎

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一個附言附加的附

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語言的言你可以寫一段附言

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這個交易所在4月19號

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我這裡有資料

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4月19號

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utc

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時間的2點下午2：00

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寫了一句話說

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contact@

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dForce

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.network

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這什麼意思呢

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他發了附言給駭客

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希望駭客聯繫他們

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為什麼

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因為再不聯絡就倒了

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99%的用戶資產

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都不見了

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他怎麼賠賠不完哪

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好了

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有趣的事情來了

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駭客看到附言以後還給他回留言

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好不好

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就有點像我收到你的轉帳

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我再回轉過去

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然後又用附言

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有點像是用銀行帳本在聊天

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呢哈

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然後駭客給他留了一個附言

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留什麼呢

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還沒加錢

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沒有轉錢也是0元

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好不好

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給了一個附言

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附言寫

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Better future

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超嗆的

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就是有點像是大家自己解釋就是

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說

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為了我們區塊鏈世界更美好更

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安全的未來

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我決定把你的錢領走

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就有這種感覺

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然後大家突然發現他們開始在

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對話以後

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就有很多鄉民就衝進來

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有人還寫留言

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超好笑就寫說

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The virus hurt

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all of us

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life is not

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easy

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My saving

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funds on lendF

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come from

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bank loans

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without it

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I will lose my

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wife and

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children

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please return

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our fund

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Ok god bless

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you

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大家就發現說因為駭客回應了

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所以大家知道駭客會來看

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所以那些錢被偷走的人都紛紛

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使用附言的功能

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來傳訊息給駭客

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說拜託你還我們錢

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我們要破產了

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好不好

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結果4月19號的下午4點

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就兩個小時後

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被駭的交易所又發了一則訊息給

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駭客

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寫了一句話

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叫important

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message

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Please check

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your EMAIL

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這個就恐怖了噢

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為什麼

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你什麼時候聽到說有人來搶銀行

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然後警察說我們寄信給你趕快去

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收信代表什麼

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警察已經知道他是誰了

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所以交易所說你趕快去收

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EMAIL

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表示交易所可能已經知道這個人

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的EMAIL是什麼了

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當然也有可能說第1次他不是說

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叫(駭客)contact us 嗎？

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對第1次他交易所留了一個

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EMAIL address

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嗎

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有可能歹徒還不知道什麼原因

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真的有回信

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然後這邊就是它寫的

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important

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message

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please check

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your EMAIL是

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交易所發給駭客

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然後我們來看駭客

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有沒有留言

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好像沒有

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但是但是因為他一直沒有回留言

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4月20號utc時間早上

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10：00

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這大概已經過了差不多12小時

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交易所就生氣了

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交易所就傳了一句話

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contact us

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For your

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better future

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他拿駭客的話來將它

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因為駭客不是之前有說

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為了大家的未來好

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對不對

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然後沒有講什麼

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然後12小時之後交易所跩起來

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說contact us

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For your better

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Future

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為了你更美好的未來

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趕快聯絡我們

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這樣

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這時候市場上其實已經開始傳

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出來了

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好像交易所鎖定了駭客的身份

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一開始還說正在談判

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就後來說既然出現一個如此措辭

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強硬的

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後來就發生很有趣的事了

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因為網路上就開始有資安專家

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開始傳出來

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兩個消息

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第1個消息

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他們發現駭客在駭到這筆錢

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又轉了三筆交易

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試圖要到三間交易所

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一個叫oneinchx.exchange

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一個叫paraswap

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一個叫Tokenion這三家交易所

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想要兌換價值20萬美元的一個

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貨幣

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虛擬貨幣

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統統都被拒絕

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為什麼

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因為被駭的記錄都已經在鏈上有

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記錄下來了

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所以這些交易所只要看到這個

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地址來的

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兌換的記錄

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他就把它封鎖

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有點像你如果說有人去搶銀行

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我銀行已經被搶走2000萬了

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我覺得發佈消息說等一下如果有

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一個帶阿福羅(afro)頭

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然後帶個墨鏡

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然後有兩撮鬍子的人進來要跟你

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領錢

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或者是跟你轉帳

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你都不要同意他

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然後把他抓起來

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類似這樣

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所以他去其他地方交易所交易

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想要兌換現金的時候失敗

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這就算了

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他們發現他在進入這些交易所的

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時候

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使用的是一般的網路分發的平台

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就是一般的browser(瀏覽器)

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他並沒有用什麼洋蔥暗網

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就是一些駭客使用的一些隱私度

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比較高的方法

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所以他留下什麼

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他留下他電腦的IP

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而且都是同一個來自中國的IP

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address

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他們還發現他是用MAC

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大家知道他螢幕解析度好不好

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Respect! Mac

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user

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ok

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所以大家就感覺到是什麼呢

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他是一名優秀的工程師

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但不是一名經驗足夠的駭客

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我們先講結論了

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結論是今天4月23號錄音時間

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我也不知道大家什麼時候會聽到

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今天駭客已經返還了所有的盜取

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資產

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好不好

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我跟你講

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我其實超級擔心這個駭客的

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人身安全

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他很可能已經被鎖定

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他很可能被拿著槍指著頭轉帳

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這是一個非常少見

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你有看過哪個搶銀行的搶匪

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然後他也不能算被抓

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他現在沒有被抓

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但是不知道為什麼錢就被轉回

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銀行了

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你沒看過這種事

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區塊鏈世界發生了這麼多

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盜取事件沒有一次是像這樣的

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7.5億的資金全數匯還

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除了一些匯差以外

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我自己覺得就是說第一表示一件

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事情就是說

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區塊鏈世界的駭客行為

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要非常小心

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哈哈哈

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第二

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其實整個區塊鏈產業是正在逐漸

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的成熟當中

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第三

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我自己覺得這是一件非常有畫面

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的故事

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什麼意思呢

402
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表示這個人不是駭客

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它是一個會寫程式會抓漏洞的人

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然後我認為他可能有一天晚上在

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檢查這些程式碼合約的時候

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他發現了一個漏洞

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00:11:23,166 --> 00:11:25,083
他發現這件事如果這樣做

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這程式寫不對

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他可能自己做了一些實驗

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他可能自己deploy在自己

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的測試網路上

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好像真的可以把裡面的錢偷走

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他想說這不會是真的吧

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然後他可能就掛載自己的錢包

415
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然後去上面測試看看

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那一試不得了

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竟然可以

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然後他就不斷測試

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竟然停不下來

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為什麼

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發現奇怪

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對方沒有發現

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因為通常一個好的平台它應該會

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稍微有一些警覺

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有人在偵測在監控

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怎麼一直領

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領到99%

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只剩下1%都還

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沒有人發現這樣

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我猜他當時可能有點慌了

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我在這邊跟大家爆個料

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在兩三年前區塊鏈在非常早期的

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時候

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曾經有一次的漏洞事件

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是一個nft就是它是類似虛擬

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貨幣

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但是不是我們講的這種一般

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交易的貨幣

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它是一個它是一個數位機器人的

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遊戲網站

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然後每一個道具是可以在交易所

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裡面換錢

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然後區塊鏈遊戲網站它被發現

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漏洞

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所以你可以用一個很簡單的交易

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去無限量

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瞬間大量的複製某一個機器人的

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手臂、腳

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一些道具的區塊鏈的憑證

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然後你就可以拿大量複製的東西

451
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到有交易機器人

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遊戲網站的道具

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的網站裡去套現

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這樣知道嗎

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然後寶博士是非常早期發現這件

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事情的人

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我就去看著人家講怎麼做這件

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事情

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然後我就想說那我去試試

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看好了

461
00:12:57,916 --> 00:13:00,625
然後你知道我抱著這種心情登錄

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我的錢包

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然後就到平台的合約後台

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真的照教學調用合約

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你知道按下去交易30秒交易

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完成以後

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我的錢包裡真的有幾百億的

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機器人的道具的憑證

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你知道嗎

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在那個時間點

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我是學術研究的心情好吧

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學術研究幫我們講

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我朋友我朋友我搞錯

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了啊

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其實不是我是我朋友

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然後你看到錢包裡突然道具的欄

477
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位

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本來是只有1

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然後突然間變成500兆的時候

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你真的會嚇到你是覺得搞什麼

481
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然後我是真的覺得駭客有可能

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經歷了這個過程

483
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然後看起來他不是很有經驗

484
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怎麼辦呢

485
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但其實有一個很奇怪的地方

486
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就是留給大家自己想一想

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駭客出包的交易所

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他交易的換成錢的幣不是BTC

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也不是以太幣

490
00:13:57,625 --> 00:13:58,541
也不是USDT

491
00:13:59,166 --> 00:14:01,333
它是一個叫PAX的幣

492
00:14:01,458 --> 00:14:02,458
PAX

493
00:14:02,458 --> 00:14:04,833
價值25萬美元的PAX很奇怪

494
00:14:05,500 --> 00:14:06,416
PAX

495
00:14:06,416 --> 00:14:06,875
被說

496
00:14:07,375 --> 00:14:07,833
是什麼

497
00:14:07,833 --> 00:14:10,125
西班牙文還是法文的peace

498
00:14:10,291 --> 00:14:11,750
就是和平的意思

499
00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,250
有人說他在這個時候其實就已經

500
00:14:14,250 --> 00:14:15,708
在釋出消息說

501
00:14:15,708 --> 00:14:18,083
我其實不是惡意的要駭你們

502
00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:20,041
我是It's for peace

503
00:14:20,083 --> 00:14:22,041
尋求和平這樣

504
00:14:22,250 --> 00:14:24,416
就是 I don't know .. 好了

505
00:14:24,416 --> 00:14:26,875
所以這整件事情是以在一個非常

506
00:14:26,875 --> 00:14:27,291
迅速

507
00:14:27,291 --> 00:14:28,541
我們現在23號

508
00:14:28,583 --> 00:14:30,875
4天之內結束了

509
00:14:30,875 --> 00:14:32,916
然後現在留下的餘波

510
00:14:32,958 --> 00:14:33,916
就像我們剛剛講的

511
00:14:34,208 --> 00:14:38,208
開始在中國有一些區塊鏈世界的

512
00:14:38,208 --> 00:14:39,375
網民開始在討論

513
00:14:39,416 --> 00:14:41,708
因為美國這邊的推特上面已經

514
00:14:41,708 --> 00:14:42,958
開始有人在罵

515
00:14:43,541 --> 00:14:44,125
就是說

516
00:14:44,416 --> 00:14:45,333
why should you

517
00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:46,541
trust a China

518
00:14:46,583 --> 00:14:47,333
protocol

519
00:14:47,375 --> 00:14:49,791
因為你看川普他們就講一些這種

520
00:14:49,833 --> 00:14:50,041
話

521
00:14:50,083 --> 00:14:52,083
這樣就是說什麼virus這樣

522
00:14:52,250 --> 00:14:54,791
所以有些人在講就掛上一些東西

523
00:14:54,791 --> 00:14:56,333
想要污名化這件事情

524
00:14:56,333 --> 00:14:57,750
我們沒有任何政治立場

525
00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,583
但是現在大家開始在討論

526
00:14:59,583 --> 00:15:02,000
然後有中國的區塊鏈從業人員

527
00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,708
就是說你這是一種區塊鏈種族

528
00:15:04,708 --> 00:15:05,208
主義

529
00:15:05,333 --> 00:15:08,250
你這是一種區塊鏈的白人至上

530
00:15:08,291 --> 00:15:08,791
主義

531
00:15:08,791 --> 00:15:12,250
好像我的團隊裡說我的安全檢核

532
00:15:12,250 --> 00:15:13,708
是由白人來做的

533
00:15:13,750 --> 00:15:14,666
就比較安全

534
00:15:14,833 --> 00:15:16,791
然後我們黃種人來做就比較不

535
00:15:16,791 --> 00:15:17,333
安全

536
00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:19,375
到底是不是這樣呢

537
00:15:19,666 --> 00:15:20,666
有這種想法的人

538
00:15:20,666 --> 00:15:22,625
是有沒有道理呢

539
00:15:22,958 --> 00:15:24,000
我們不評論

540
00:15:24,166 --> 00:15:26,041
我們只是report給你告訴

541
00:15:26,041 --> 00:15:28,250
你說在這個世界開始出現的

542
00:15:28,541 --> 00:15:30,416
我認為這可能在各個領域都開始

543
00:15:30,416 --> 00:15:30,791
出現

544
00:15:30,791 --> 00:15:32,916
那只是科技領域特別多

545
00:15:32,916 --> 00:15:35,500
因為現在有人講華為啊這些安全的

546
00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:37,041
體系Zoom啊

547
00:15:37,333 --> 00:15:38,333
一再一再的發生

548
00:15:38,333 --> 00:15:40,500
然後我們這一次被駭7.5億台幣

549
00:15:40,541 --> 00:15:40,708
的

550
00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,458
剛好就是一個China

551
00:15:42,458 --> 00:15:43,125
protocol

552
00:15:43,166 --> 00:15:45,583
China的一個地方的交易所

553
00:15:45,833 --> 00:15:47,250
這件事情我們不評論

554
00:15:47,250 --> 00:15:48,541
我們report可以知道

555
00:15:48,541 --> 00:15:50,000
我們也希望大家可以從

556
00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:50,708
mini episode

557
00:15:50,708 --> 00:15:51,166
裡面

558
00:15:51,416 --> 00:15:52,500
我也不知道可以得到什麼

559
00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:54,500
總之你得到了一個有趣的故事

560
00:15:54,791 --> 00:15:56,541
也希望大家再注意

561
00:15:56,541 --> 00:15:57,208
我們節目

562
00:15:57,208 --> 00:15:58,750
雖然多次介紹defi

563
00:15:58,750 --> 00:15:59,750
service

564
00:16:00,166 --> 00:16:02,708
我們曾經訪談過DeFi專家台灣

565
00:16:02,708 --> 00:16:03,333
的陳品

566
00:16:03,708 --> 00:16:05,000
我說安不安全

567
00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,083
他說這也難講

568
00:16:07,083 --> 00:16:07,333
哈哈

569
00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:08,666
所以大家自己小心

570
00:16:08,666 --> 00:16:09,166
好不好

571
00:16:09,166 --> 00:16:09,958
區塊鏈的世界

572
00:16:10,458 --> 00:16:12,541
它是一個非常野蠻生長的地方

573
00:16:12,583 --> 00:16:14,291
我們多次講到區塊鏈

574
00:16:14,291 --> 00:16:15,333
多次講到DeFi

575
00:16:15,333 --> 00:16:18,375
但我們完全不建議你在不夠瞭解

576
00:16:18,416 --> 00:16:19,791
風險的情況之下

577
00:16:19,958 --> 00:16:21,708
去做過多的嘗試

578
00:16:22,041 --> 00:16:24,041
但是如果是實驗的精神教育的

579
00:16:24,041 --> 00:16:24,291
目的

580
00:16:24,291 --> 00:16:25,541
要去進行一些測試

581
00:16:25,541 --> 00:16:26,541
我們當然也是很

582
00:16:26,541 --> 00:16:27,041
非常歡迎

583
00:16:27,416 --> 00:16:28,000
好了

584
00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,875
我們這一集就講到這裡了

585
00:16:29,916 --> 00:16:31,875
希望大家可以對有趣的世界有

586
00:16:31,875 --> 00:16:32,583
一些瞭解

587
00:16:32,625 --> 00:16:33,875
有更多的消息

588
00:16:33,875 --> 00:16:36,041
也希望大家持續的關注

589
00:16:36,041 --> 00:16:37,625
我們也會試試看

590
00:16:37,625 --> 00:16:39,625
在有趣的事件發生的時候

591
00:16:39,666 --> 00:16:40,791
第一時間告訴大家

592
00:16:40,791 --> 00:16:41,500
感謝大家收聽

593
00:16:41,500 --> 00:16:43,791
寶博朋友說我是葛如鈞寶博士

594
00:16:44,375 --> 00:16:46,000
如果你喜歡我的節目

595
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,416
歡迎你分享點選訂閱下一集自動

596
00:16:48,416 --> 00:16:49,500
送上給你

597
00:16:50,208 --> 00:16:51,416
無論你在apple

598
00:16:51,416 --> 00:16:51,708
pod

599
00:16:51,708 --> 00:16:52,000
cast

600
00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:52,291
spotify

601
00:16:52,333 --> 00:16:52,625
SoundOn

602
00:16:52,625 --> 00:16:54,125
YouTube或者其他頻道

603
00:16:54,125 --> 00:16:55,291
聽到我的節目

604
00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:56,791
歡迎給我五星評價

605
00:16:56,833 --> 00:16:58,916
按喜歡留言或者按小鈴鐺追蹤

606
00:16:58,916 --> 00:16:59,208
訂閱

607
00:16:59,833 --> 00:17:01,333
我們下次空中見

608
00:17:01,375 --> 00:17:02,291
拜拜