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uv python install at fixed location? #7710

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mikeckennedy opened this issue Sep 26, 2024 · 10 comments
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uv python install at fixed location? #7710

mikeckennedy opened this issue Sep 26, 2024 · 10 comments
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@mikeckennedy
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mikeckennedy commented Sep 26, 2024

Hi team,

I'm looking to rework the Talk Python installing Python guide to recommend uv rather than the myriad of options needed for all the platforms now.

One thing that seems clunky for uv python install is that I don't see a way to make a particular Python version the default one.

I'm not suggesting taking over the system Python or anything like that. But since each install managed by uv has a very specific path, e.g.:

.local/share/uv/python/cpython-3.12.6-macos-aarch64-none/bin/

Any update to the version (even build number) means whatever path you set in your system will become invalid.

For example, if we could uv python install 3.12.6 --primary or something, and have uv put a link or copy in some well known location such as .local/share/uv/python/primary then we can add that to the top of the path if we wish and when we run python/python3 it'll always find this one we designate as primary.

Any thinking along these lines?

BTW, yes, I know uv is venv-first and that's great. But if we are using it get Python on machines for super beginners, having the option to just type python to get a REPL and that sort of thing would be nice instead of full blown installers.

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zanieb commented Sep 26, 2024

I think you're sort of looking for #6265

@mikeckennedy
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Hi @zanieb Yes, sort of. As long as we can get the shim at the very tip of the path. Xcode put Python in my path (3.9), Homebrew put 3.12 in my path. But I don't want either of those as the authoritative python for me. I'd like whatever I do from uv python install to be the one.

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zanieb commented Sep 26, 2024

We can't necessarily control what the tip of your path is, that's up to how you've configured your shell. We can warn if it's not going to be at the front though.

@mikeckennedy
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Hey @zanieb

Of course you can't control our paths, that's what ever we do to our machines.

My request here is that uv provide some mechanism to use a stable directory structure for a selected version of Python that it installed. In this way, we can put something fixed, rather than something that changes bi-monthly, into rc files or windows path settings that will stay working as Python evolves (3.13.0 -> 3.13.1, etc).

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From reading around a bit, I'm getting the sense that a number of folks (myself included) seem to be generally in favor of getting the functionality/purpose that pyenv serves for a lot of us added to uv so that we can fully replace the need of pyenv.

Could still be in my own little dreamland though 😅

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zanieb commented Oct 2, 2024

We're working on it! See #7677

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Ahh sweet. Hadn't found that one yet! Subscribed! 😏 Thanks

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zanieb commented Nov 7, 2024

Hey @mikeckennedy, this is sort of available in preview now via #8458 and #8650

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@mikeckennedy
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Thanks @zanieb Yes, uv python install --default sounds like what I was really searching for. I'm looking forward to playing with it soon!

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Also, feel free to close this issue if you also think those features cover this use-case. I do think it will.

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