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PALM with Freesurfer and twins #65

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jmdk73 opened this issue Dec 19, 2024 · 0 comments
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PALM with Freesurfer and twins #65

jmdk73 opened this issue Dec 19, 2024 · 0 comments

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jmdk73 commented Dec 19, 2024

Dear Anderson,

I am trying to use PALM with Freesurfer surface data like thickness
and volume because my sample consists of monozygotic twins. It is a
simple two group design, patients/non-patients with twin pairs that
could be both in the same group or across groups. I use FSL GLM tool
to generate the mat and con files. I encounter two issues:

  1. While Palm runs fine, the output mgz files are corrupted, can’t be
    loaded in either freeview or fsleyes. The palm command I run is:

palm
-i mgh_g3/lh.volume.s5.g3.mgh
-i mgh_g3/lh.volume.s5.g3.mgh
-d palm/g3.mat
-t palm/PALM.con
-eb palm/g3_eb.csv -within
-n 1000
-tfce2D
-s fsaverage/surf/lh.white
-s fsaverage/surf/rh.white
-o palm/g3_n1000

  1. I don’t manage to figure out how a good exchangeability file to
    restrict the permutations should look like. While I can’t find any
    information online, conceptually I would go for each twin pair should
    be considered a block and permutations should be performed between
    blocks. However, using the -whole option or (-1 as the first column,
    twinID as second), palm complains that the blocks are not the same
    size – which is correct since a lot of the twins don’t have their
    co-twin in the sample. For the above run, I split the sample into
    paired and unpaired twins just to be able to run but it is probably
    not optimal.

Kind regards,
Julian

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