diff --git a/astl/include/astl/tuple_util.hpp b/astl/include/astl/tuple_util.hpp
index a9aa0df7..c9c1c63f 100644
--- a/astl/include/astl/tuple_util.hpp
+++ b/astl/include/astl/tuple_util.hpp
@@ -59,15 +59,15 @@ template <typename Func>
 struct expand_for_each {
     Func& f;
     template <typename... Args>
-    constexpr void operator()(Args&... args) {
-        (f(args), ...);
+    constexpr void operator()(Args&&... args) {
+        (f(std::forward<Args>(args)), ...);
     }
 };
 } // namespace impl
 
 template <typename Tuple, typename Func>
-constexpr void for_each(Tuple& tup, Func f) {
-    std::apply(impl::expand_for_each{f}, tup);
+constexpr void for_each(Tuple&& tup, Func f) {
+    std::apply(impl::expand_for_each{f}, std::forward<Tuple>(tup));
 }
 
 } // namespace astl::tuple
diff --git a/dummy-plugin/CMakeLists.txt b/dummy-plugin/CMakeLists.txt
index 7dd4d638..e9c9c6cf 100644
--- a/dummy-plugin/CMakeLists.txt
+++ b/dummy-plugin/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -8,3 +8,7 @@ if(AC_LOCAL_BUILD_TESTS OR AC_LOCAL_BUILD_EXAMPLES)
 endif()
 
 ac_local_add_test_subdir()
+
+if(AC_LOCAL_BUILD_EXAMPLES)
+    add_subdirectory(example)
+endif()
diff --git a/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyInterface.hpp b/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyInterface.hpp
index 602b4b80..80c0b959 100644
--- a/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyInterface.hpp
+++ b/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyInterface.hpp
@@ -14,7 +14,7 @@ struct DummyInterface {
 
     struct OpRun {
         static constexpr auto id = "run";
-        static constexpr auto desc = "Run the dummy inference and produce some output";
+        static constexpr auto description = "Run the dummy inference and produce some output";
 
         struct Params {
             Field<std::vector<std::string>> input;
diff --git a/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyLoaderSchema.hpp b/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyLoaderSchema.hpp
index 1dfa637c..ca13282d 100644
--- a/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyLoaderSchema.hpp
+++ b/dummy-plugin/code/ac/dummy/DummyLoaderSchema.hpp
@@ -8,7 +8,9 @@
 namespace ac::local::schema {
 
 struct DummyLoader {
-    static constexpr auto id = "dummy";
+    static inline constexpr std::string_view id = "dummy";
+    static inline constexpr std::string_view description = "Dummy inference for tests, examples, and experiments.";
+
     struct Params {
         Field<std::string> spliceString = std::nullopt;
 
@@ -19,7 +21,8 @@ struct DummyLoader {
     };
 
     struct InstanceGeneral {
-        static constexpr auto id = "general";
+        static inline constexpr std::string_view id = "general";
+        static inline constexpr std::string_view description = "General instance";
 
         struct Params {
             Field<int> cutoff = Default(-1);
diff --git a/dummy-plugin/example/CMakeLists.txt b/dummy-plugin/example/CMakeLists.txt
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..1a42c73d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/dummy-plugin/example/CMakeLists.txt
@@ -0,0 +1,11 @@
+# Copyright (c) Alpaca Core
+# SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT
+#
+set(tgt example-ac-local-gen-dummy-schema)
+add_executable(${tgt}
+    e-gen-dummy-schema.cpp
+)
+target_link_libraries(${tgt}
+    ac::schema
+    aclp-dummy-baselib
+)
diff --git a/dummy-plugin/example/e-gen-dummy-schema.cpp b/dummy-plugin/example/e-gen-dummy-schema.cpp
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..4558fc74
--- /dev/null
+++ b/dummy-plugin/example/e-gen-dummy-schema.cpp
@@ -0,0 +1,12 @@
+// Copyright (c) Alpaca Core
+// SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT
+//
+#include <ac/dummy/DummyLoaderSchema.hpp>
+#include <ac/schema/GenerateLoaderSchemaDict.hpp>
+#include <iostream>
+
+int main() {
+    auto d = ac::local::schema::generateLoaderSchema<acnl::ordered_json, ac::local::schema::DummyLoader>();
+    std::cout << d.dump(2) << std::endl;
+    return 0;
+}
diff --git a/local/code/ac/local/ModelLoader.hpp b/local/code/ac/local/ModelLoader.hpp
index 30247f48..477292e5 100644
--- a/local/code/ac/local/ModelLoader.hpp
+++ b/local/code/ac/local/ModelLoader.hpp
@@ -27,8 +27,8 @@ class AC_LOCAL_EXPORT ModelLoader {
         /// Optional human readable name of the loader vendor.
         std::string vendor;
 
-        /// Model schema for the models this loader produces.
-        Dict modelSchema;
+        /// Schema for the loader.
+        Dict schema;
 
         /// Additional tags that can be used to filter loaders
         std::vector<std::string> tags;
diff --git a/schema/code/ac/schema/GenerateLoaderSchemaDict.hpp b/schema/code/ac/schema/GenerateLoaderSchemaDict.hpp
new file mode 100644
index 00000000..44bc2d90
--- /dev/null
+++ b/schema/code/ac/schema/GenerateLoaderSchemaDict.hpp
@@ -0,0 +1,36 @@
+// Copyright (c) Alpaca Core
+// SPDX-License-Identifier: MIT
+//
+#pragma once
+#include "SchemaVisitor.hpp"
+#include <astl/tuple_util.hpp>
+
+namespace ac::local::schema {
+
+template <typename Dict, typename Schema>
+Dict generateLoaderSchema() {
+    Dict dict;
+    dict["id"] = Schema::id;
+    dict["description"] = Schema::description;
+    Struct_toSchema<typename Schema::Params>(dict["params"]);
+
+    auto& is = dict["instances"];
+    astl::tuple::for_each(typename Schema::Instances{}, [&]<typename Instance>(Instance) {
+        auto& i = is[Instance::id];
+        i["description"] = Instance::description;
+        Struct_toSchema<typename Instance::Params>(i["params"]);
+        auto& os = i["ops"];
+        astl::tuple::for_each(typename Instance::Interfaces{}, [&]<typename Interface>(Interface) {
+            astl::tuple::for_each(typename Interface::Ops{}, [&]<typename Op>(Op) {
+                auto& o = os[Op::id];
+                o["description"] = Op::description;
+                Struct_toSchema<typename Op::Params>(o["params"]);
+                Struct_toSchema<typename Op::Return>(o["return"]);
+            });
+        });
+    });
+
+    return dict;
+}
+
+}
diff --git a/schema/code/ac/schema/SchemaVisitor.hpp b/schema/code/ac/schema/SchemaVisitor.hpp
index 32044c52..99b2fa18 100644
--- a/schema/code/ac/schema/SchemaVisitor.hpp
+++ b/schema/code/ac/schema/SchemaVisitor.hpp
@@ -24,47 +24,33 @@ struct SchemaVisitor {
         props = &out["properties"];
     }
 
-    template <std::signed_integral I>
-    static void describeField(Dict& obj) {
-        obj["type"] = "integer";
-    }
-
-    template <std::unsigned_integral I>
-    static void describeField(Dict& obj) {
-        obj["type"] = "integer";
-    }
-
-    template <std::floating_point F>
-    static void describeField(Dict& obj) {
-        obj["type"] = "number";
-    }
-
-    template <std::same_as<std::string> S>
-    static void describeField(Dict& obj) {
-        obj["type"] = "string";
-    }
-
-    template <std::same_as<bool> B>
-    static void describeField(Dict& obj) {
-        obj["type"] = "boolean";
-    }
-
-    template <std::same_as<std::nullptr_t> N>
-    static void describeField(Dict& obj) {
-        obj["type"] = "null";
-    }
-
-    template <Visitable V>
-    static void describeField(Dict& d) {
-        SchemaVisitor v(d);
-        V schema;
-        schema.visitFields(v);
-    }
-
-    template <typename Vec>
+    template <typename T>
     static void describeField(Dict& obj) {
-        obj["type"] = "array";
-        describeField<typename Vec::value_type>(obj["items"]);
+        if constexpr (std::signed_integral<T> || std::unsigned_integral<T>) {
+            obj["type"] = "integer";
+        }
+        else if constexpr (std::floating_point<T>) {
+            obj["type"] = "number";
+        }
+        else if constexpr (std::same_as<T, std::string> || std::same_as<T, std::string_view>) {
+            obj["type"] = "string";
+        }
+        else if constexpr (std::same_as<T, bool>) {
+            obj["type"] = "boolean";
+        }
+        else if constexpr (std::same_as<T, std::nullptr_t>) {
+            obj["type"] = "null";
+        }
+        else if constexpr (Visitable<T>) {
+            SchemaVisitor v(obj);
+            T schema;
+            schema.visitFields(v);
+        }
+        else {
+            // assume array
+            obj["type"] = "array";
+            describeField<typename T::value_type>(obj["items"]);
+        }
     }
 
     template <typename T>