White balance on ASI224MC #495

Vertikar · 2022-12-29T01:24:46Z

Vertikar
Dec 29, 2022

Hi all, been struggling with getting the white balance sorted on my camera, have tried auto, and manually setting it, but cant get it dialled in.

Has anyone got any settings they could suggest as a starting point from the same camera, or another ASI camera?

Answered by aaronwmorris

Jan 7, 2023

I have merged #517 which will permit you to override the debayer algorithm in the config. Let me know how that works.

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aaronwmorris · 2022-12-29T01:42:28Z

aaronwmorris
Dec 29, 2022
Maintainer

What kind of issues are you seeing? Can you post an example image of what you see?

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Vertikar Jan 4, 2023
Author

Awesome, thanks, I'll give those a shot.
That just goes in the INDI Camera Configuration section?

aaronwmorris Jan 4, 2023
Maintainer

Yep, just drop it there.

Vertikar Jan 4, 2023
Author

Do you do any further adjustments after the indi settings in the allsky config? or just leave them at the defaults of 1 and make adjustments in indi as needed?

aaronwmorris Jan 4, 2023
Maintainer

You can keep the other color adjustments at 1.0. To be honest, those adjustments do not work extremely well, anyway.

The camera adjustments are better to adjust. ZWO cameras (and a few others) only provide Red and Blue adjustments, but no Green channel adjustments.

Vertikar Jan 5, 2023
Author

Alright, so I haven't really got anywhere, despite messing around with everything.
I've gone back to your recommended settings, made sure SNCR is off, and auto WB is turned off, and this what I'm getting.

Here's the indi settings:

{
    "PROPERTIES": {
        "CCD_CONTROLS": {
            "WB_R": 50,
            "WB_B": 75
        }
    },
    "SWITCHES": {
        "CCD_CONTROLS_MODE": {
            "off": [
                "AUTO_WB_R",
                "AUTO_WB_B"
            ]
        },
        "CCD_VIDEO_FORMAT": {
            "on": [
                "ASI_IMG_RAW16"
            ],
            "off": [
                "ASI_IMG_RAW8"
            ]
        }
    }
}

Also attached the raw image, if that helps.
Processed

Raw

Is this as good as I'll get it during the daytime? Should I actually be trying to adjust it to be right at night instead? Feel like that's going to be much harder with less colours to use as a gauge.

aaronwmorris · 2023-01-06T02:01:03Z

aaronwmorris
Jan 6, 2023
Maintainer

Now that I think about it looks like indi-allsky is using the wrong debayer algorithm for your camera. I am guessing that RGGB is being used but if I apply BGGR I get this:

This is what I would expect from a color camera missing an IR/Cut filter.

Can you look at the log in /var/log/indi-allsky/indi-allsky.log and see what bayer pattern is being detected? If possible, could you enable saving the FITS files and upload one somewhere I could inspect it?

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Vertikar Jan 6, 2023
Author

Looks like RGGB as you suspected:

Jan  6 20:33:30 allsky [INFO] MainProcess indi.getCcdInfo() #468: Detecting bayer pattern
Jan  6 20:33:30 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #549: Minimum CCD exposure: 0.00003201
Jan  6 20:33:30 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #564: Default CCD exposure: 0.01000000
Jan  6 20:33:30 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #572: CCD CFA: RGGB
Jan  6 20:33:30 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky.run() #822: Camera last ready: 0.0s
Jan  6 20:33:30 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky.run() #823: Exposure state: unset

also:

karl@allsky:~ $ grep RGGB /var/log/indi-allsky/indi-allsky.log | tail -n 20
Jan  6 20:32:05 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:32:15 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:32:25 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:32:35 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:32:45 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:32:55 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:33:05 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:33:30 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #572: CCD CFA: RGGB
Jan  6 20:33:36 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB
Jan  6 20:33:41 allsky [INFO] ImageWorker001 image.add() #1295: Image bits: 16, cfa: RGGB

I'll grab a FITS file in a minute, have enabled it

Vertikar · 2023-01-06T09:42:14Z

Vertikar
Jan 6, 2023
Author

Grabbed FITS, RAW and the PNG again in case they're all useful, had to gzip the FITS to get it to upload here.

ccd1_20230106_203622.fit.gz

Also here's a snippet of the log with the current versions:

Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #353: indi-allsky release: 6.0
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #354: indi-allsky config version: 20221217.0
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #356: Python version: 3.9.2
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #357: Platform: aarch64
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #359: System CPUs: 4
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #364: System memory: 3794 MB
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #367: System uptime: 277830s
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess indi.__init__() #135: creating an instance of IndiClient
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess indi.__init__() #142: PyIndi version: 1.9.7
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess allsky._initialize() #388: Connecting to indiserver
Jan  6 20:33:18 allsky [INFO] MainProcess indi.serverConnected() #286: Server connected (localhost:7624)

And the system details from the System page too in case you need that

System
Python 3.9.2
pyindi 1.9.7
cv2 4.6.0
numpy 1.22.4
ephem 4.1.3
astropy 5.1.1
flask 2.2.2
ccdproc 2.3.1
paramiko 2.12.0
paho.mqtt 1.6.1
dbus 1.3.2
pycurl PycURL/7.45.1 libcurl/7.74.0 GnuTLS/3.7.1 zlib/1.2.11 brotli/1.0.9 libidn2/2.3.0 libpsl/0.21.0 (+libidn2/2.3.0) libssh2/1.9.0 nghttp2/1.43.0 librtmp/2.3

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aaronwmorris Jan 6, 2023
Maintainer

I think this is the last question, can you provide the full output of indi_getprop.

Vertikar Jan 6, 2023
Author

Here you go:

ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CONNECTION.CONNECT=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CONNECTION.DISCONNECT=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.DRIVER_INFO.DRIVER_NAME=ZWO CCD
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.DRIVER_INFO.DRIVER_EXEC=indi_asi_ccd
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.DRIVER_INFO.DRIVER_VERSION=2.2
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.DRIVER_INFO.DRIVER_INTERFACE=6
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.POLLING_PERIOD.PERIOD_MS=1000
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.DEBUG.ENABLE=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.DEBUG.DISABLE=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.SIMULATION.ENABLE=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.SIMULATION.DISABLE=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CONFIG_PROCESS.CONFIG_LOAD=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CONFIG_PROCESS.CONFIG_SAVE=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CONFIG_PROCESS.CONFIG_DEFAULT=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CONFIG_PROCESS.CONFIG_PURGE=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_TELESCOPE=Telescope Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_ROTATOR=Rotator Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_FOCUSER=Focuser Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_FILTER=CCD Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_SKYQUALITY=SQM
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_EXPOSURE.CCD_EXPOSURE_VALUE=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_ABORT_EXPOSURE.ABORT=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME.X=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME.Y=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME.WIDTH=1304
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME.HEIGHT=976
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_BINNING.HOR_BIN=1
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_BINNING.VER_BIN=1
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FITS_HEADER.FITS_OBSERVER=Unknown
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FITS_HEADER.FITS_OBJECT=Unknown
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CAPTURE_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_RAW8=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CAPTURE_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_RGB24=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CAPTURE_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_Y8=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CAPTURE_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_RAW16=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_TRANSFER_FORMAT.FORMAT_FITS=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_TRANSFER_FORMAT.FORMAT_NATIVE=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_INFO.CCD_MAX_X=1304
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_INFO.CCD_MAX_Y=976
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_INFO.CCD_PIXEL_SIZE=3.75
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_INFO.CCD_PIXEL_SIZE_X=3.75
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_INFO.CCD_PIXEL_SIZE_Y=3.75
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_INFO.CCD_BITSPERPIXEL=16
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_COMPRESSION.INDI_ENABLED=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_COMPRESSION.INDI_DISABLED=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.TELESCOPE_TIMED_GUIDE_NS.TIMED_GUIDE_N=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.TELESCOPE_TIMED_GUIDE_NS.TIMED_GUIDE_S=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.TELESCOPE_TIMED_GUIDE_WE.TIMED_GUIDE_W=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.TELESCOPE_TIMED_GUIDE_WE.TIMED_GUIDE_E=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME_TYPE.FRAME_LIGHT=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME_TYPE.FRAME_BIAS=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME_TYPE.FRAME_DARK=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FRAME_TYPE.FRAME_FLAT=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CFA.CFA_OFFSET_X=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CFA.CFA_OFFSET_Y=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CFA.CFA_TYPE=RGGB
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.TELESCOPE_TYPE.TELESCOPE_PRIMARY=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.TELESCOPE_TYPE.TELESCOPE_GUIDE=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.WCS_CONTROL.WCS_ENABLE=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.WCS_CONTROL.WCS_DISABLE=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.UPLOAD_MODE.UPLOAD_CLIENT=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.UPLOAD_MODE.UPLOAD_LOCAL=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.UPLOAD_MODE.UPLOAD_BOTH=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.UPLOAD_SETTINGS.UPLOAD_DIR=/home/karl
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.UPLOAD_SETTINGS.UPLOAD_PREFIX=IMAGE_XXX
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FAST_TOGGLE.INDI_ENABLED=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FAST_TOGGLE.INDI_DISABLED=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_FAST_COUNT.FRAMES=1
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_STREAM.STREAM_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_STREAM.STREAM_OFF=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.STREAM_DELAY.STREAM_DELAY_TIME=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.STREAMING_EXPOSURE.STREAMING_EXPOSURE_VALUE=0.10000000000000000555
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.STREAMING_EXPOSURE.STREAMING_DIVISOR_VALUE=1
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FPS.EST_FPS=30
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FPS.AVG_FPS=30
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_DURATION_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_FRAME_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_OFF=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_FILE.RECORD_FILE_DIR=/home/karl/indi__D_
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_FILE.RECORD_FILE_NAME=indi_record__T_
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_OPTIONS.RECORD_DURATION=1
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_OPTIONS.RECORD_FRAME_TOTAL=30
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.X=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.Y=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.WIDTH=1304
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.HEIGHT=976
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_ENCODER.RAW=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_ENCODER.MJPEG=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_RECORDER.SER=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_RECORDER.OGV=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.LIMITS.LIMITS_BUFFER_MAX=512
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.LIMITS.LIMITS_PREVIEW_FPS=10
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_TEMPERATURE.CCD_TEMPERATURE_VALUE=25.5
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.Gain=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.WB_R=50
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.WB_B=75
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.Offset=50
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.BandWidth=80
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.AutoExpMaxGain=200
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.AutoExpMaxExpMS=10000
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.AutoExpTargetBrightness=100
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.HardwareBin=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.HighSpeedMode=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS.MonoBin=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS_MODE.AUTO_Gain=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS_MODE.AUTO_WB_R=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS_MODE.AUTO_WB_B=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_CONTROLS_MODE.AUTO_BandWidth=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FLIP.FLIP_HORIZONTAL=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FLIP.FLIP_VERTICAL=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_RAW8=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_RGB24=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_Y8=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_FORMAT.ASI_IMG_RAW16=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.BLINK.BLINK_COUNT=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.BLINK.BLINK_DURATION=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ADC_DEPTH.BITS=12
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.SDK.VERSION=1, 22
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_TELESCOPE=Telescope Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_ROTATOR=Rotator Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_FOCUSER=Focuser Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_FILTER=CCD Simulator
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.ACTIVE_DEVICES.ACTIVE_SKYQUALITY=SQM
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_STREAM.STREAM_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_VIDEO_STREAM.STREAM_OFF=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.STREAMING_EXPOSURE.STREAMING_EXPOSURE_VALUE=0.10000000000000000555
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.STREAMING_EXPOSURE.STREAMING_DIVISOR_VALUE=1
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FPS.EST_FPS=30
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.FPS.AVG_FPS=30
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_DURATION_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_FRAME_ON=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_STREAM.RECORD_OFF=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_FILE.RECORD_FILE_DIR=/home/karl/indi__D_
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_FILE.RECORD_FILE_NAME=indi_record__T_
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_OPTIONS.RECORD_DURATION=1
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.RECORD_OPTIONS.RECORD_FRAME_TOTAL=30
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.X=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.Y=0
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.WIDTH=1304
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_FRAME.HEIGHT=976
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_ENCODER.RAW=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_ENCODER.MJPEG=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_RECORDER.SER=On
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.CCD_STREAM_RECORDER.OGV=Off
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.LIMITS.LIMITS_BUFFER_MAX=512
ZWO CCD ASI224MC.LIMITS.LIMITS_PREVIEW_FPS=10

aaronwmorris · 2023-01-07T01:14:19Z

aaronwmorris
Jan 7, 2023
Maintainer

I do not understand why it is happening, but I suspect your image is being received by the camera flipped.

If I flip the FITS image vertically and horizontally, the RGGB debayering works fine. Let me think about this.

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aaronwmorris · 2023-01-07T03:50:55Z

aaronwmorris
Jan 7, 2023
Maintainer

I have merged #517 which will permit you to override the debayer algorithm in the config. Let me know how that works.

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Vertikar Jan 7, 2023
Author

Alright, will update and see what happens.
Thanks for trying to get to the bottom of this

Vertikar Jan 8, 2023
Author

That's looking much better, thanks heaps!

p088gll Mar 21, 2023

I have merged #517 which will permit you to override the debayer algorithm in the config. Let me know how that works.

Hello there,
I have the same problem, but with the ASI120MC camera - and maybe I am missing something. How can I override the debayer algorithm in the config ? I tried to set it via the web interface, but whatever I set there, the image never changes.
Thanks
Goetz

aaronwmorris · 2023-03-21T17:49:51Z

aaronwmorris
Mar 21, 2023
Maintainer

@p088gll

Hello there,
I have the same problem, but with the ASI120MC camera - and maybe I am missing something. How can I override the debayer algorithm in the config ? I tried to set it via the web interface, but whatever I set there, the image never changes.
Thanks
Goetz

Ensure you are reloading the indi-allsky service for the change to go into effect. It could take 2-3 times the exposure time to see the updated image. If in doubt, reboot.

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