hmmmm, how about RS press for more than one option acts similar to right trigger, ie then dpad to move alow the row of icons? RS or B to cancel out again, A to select? Would also add "tooltip", I think the evac button has a tooltip, longer than just the "Evac" text controllers get beside the RS icon...

2 downsides I see to such approach:

1. Much more complex code changes
2. Focusing small things in top-right corner of screen may not be the best idea UX-wise. This can be solved by forcing shot preview central panel for every action (like the evac does), but in my original plan that was not required

on 2) that's already being done for the mouse input?

Only if the action itself wants to do it (eg. evac). Something like LW2's show/hide command radius doesn't need/use it. Besides, the shot preview would require all actions to be actual abilities on the unit

Not sure we mean quite the same thing then? was just referring to the element of showing a row of icons, whether mouse or controller input....

I understand what you mean, but that way you need to somehow present to the player that the command row is currently focused. Simply highlighting the small buttons in far corner of screen doesn't seem enough for me

Well they don't seem that small to me, but anyways, get it working at all before worrying about controller UI issues really... Although, one more thing, if you want to be fancy, have have RS tap always be evac, then RS hold for the selection, the arg Param to OnUnrealCommand() distinguishes taps, holds etc if you need to tell the difference.

RS hold for the selection

That's an interesting idea, didn't consider that. How would you suggest to present it to the player though? I want it to feel as natural part of UI

get it working at all

Wanted to see what other people think first

before worrying about controller UI

As X2 experience shows, bolting controller onto kb+m UI isn't a great approach, so I'm considering both from get go

Hmmm, discoverability eh? not 100 sure on that one...
I don't see the massive difference in terms of UI feed back etc between mouse clicking one of a row of icons, and selecting one with the dpad, Once the "selection" is up there?

Question: in vanilla, the mouse "call evac" button is shown if the current unit has it; the controller UI oth shows it only if the ability can be used... Do we want to unify this experience?

Another fun fact:

• With controller you can jump to evac targeting while already targeting another ability
• With mouse you cannot (you need to exit first)

Would really love to have this functionality for things like calling reinforcements and support strikes.

Would really love to have this functionality

Me too, me too...