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(1999.03.0087) Holinshed Chronicles #164

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lcerrato opened this issue Sep 27, 2022 · 10 comments
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(1999.03.0087) Holinshed Chronicles #164

lcerrato opened this issue Sep 27, 2022 · 10 comments

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@lcerrato
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There is no information in this text header. I do not know the source edition. (Reads "later".)
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.03.0087
Was previously stored as:—
//Renaissance/Holinshed/scotland/opensource/history.xml

There is info in here which suggests something earlier than 1808 was used but cannot tell if there is any inconsistency.

@AlisonBabeu
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hi @lcerrato so is this file on GitHub anywhere? My new laptop doesn't have the entire old CVS on it, and I was hoping to take a look at the file. I've been reading through the first few paragraphs of an 1808 edition here.

It also appears that in our version the text is having display issues, because in some cases it appears the side note summaries are interrupting sentences like in this text here: " Gathelus thus being aduanced by such honorable mariage, liued all the daies of his father The credit of this historie of Gathelus we leaue to the authors. Israel oppressed. in law Pharao Orus, in great honor."

@lcerrato
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@AlisonBabeu
It is on the internal Tufts server only.

The way the marginalia is displayed is determined mostly by the markup, so you may want to view things in the XML reader to see if that is the source of the issue. The xml I saw preserved the marginalia at the end of the print line, which would be standard practice. (It makes for choppy reading, though.)

<p> Gathelus thus being aduanced by such honorable mariage, liued all the daies of his father <note place="marg" anchored="yes"> The credit of this historie of Gathelus we leaue to the authors. </note> <note place="marg" anchored="yes">Israel oppressed.</note> in law Pharao Orus, in great honor. But after his deceasse,

There is a notation in the header that is not found in the 1808 (I found it in a much earlier printing):—
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_First_and_Second_Volumes_of_Chronicl/ASFEAAAAcAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=0

@lcerrato
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@AlisonBabeu
I've sent you a Dropbox invitation to my copy of this data. We should use that.

@AlisonBabeu
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hey @lcerrato so what was the notation. The one reason I had originally thought it was the 1808 edition was because it matches up in terms of page numbers, in the XML file the text starts on page 32 and ends on 653 and that is the same for the 1808 edition.

@lcerrato
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<titlePart>Gathered And Written In English By Raphaell Hollinshead; And Continued From 1571, To 1585, By Others. With A Table Of The Principall Particularities Herein Conteined. M. Pal. In Ari. histor&aelig; placeant nostrates ac peregrin&aelig;. </titlePart>

@lcerrato
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@AlisonBabeu
I see that on the 1808 edition now — I had tried a content search and I think that the alternate spellings meant it did not appear. I agree that the 19th C edition is more likely, and if the pages correspond, that's great.

@AlisonBabeu
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Actually @lcerrato it looks like they have a copy of the original title page in the 1808 printing too (https://books.google.com/books?id=p14tbYK8Q3oC&pg=PA29#v=onepage&q&f=false), its a second title page right before the history, unless I am missing something.

@AlisonBabeu
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See @lcerrato great minds think alike.

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Created companion issue in new repository

@cwulfman
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Holinshed's printing history in gnarly; see, e.g., https://doi.org/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199565757.013.0001

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