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Integrate Johnson solids dataset #36
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I added a Zenodo Identifier for our description to the wikidata page. |
While adding our Identifiers to the individual Wikidata entries for the Johnson solids, I have noticed an inconsistency. Wikidata has two competing entries:
Clearly the second one is a Johnson solid and the first one is not necessarily. However the pentagonal pyramid https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1154713 is also classified as a Jonson without specifying the constant edge length (there are more such examples), so using the second entry is inconsistent with the other examples. I would like to state that the first square pyramid is a Johnson solid under the condition that its edge lengths are constant, but I can't find out whether this is possible in Wikidata (if so this could also be done for the other examples). I would also like to remove Norman Johnson as its discoverer (possibly also for some other Johnson solids, because pyramids have been known for much longer). If this is not possible I am unsure how to proceed. Do I make the second entry a subclass of the first and repeat this process for similar Johnson solids? |
@lkastner @zkgeiselmann It took me a bit to get into the matter, but now I think I can respond to your points:
Indeed.
I don't think this is currently possible that way, but I have started a discussion to get some input from others.
Yes, feel free to go ahead and adjust as necessary.
Yes.
Yes. I think this would be the way to go for now. If the discussion brings up another option, we can reconsider. If you keep working on this, maybe this query — or variants of it — can be helpful to keep an overview. |
@Daniel-Mietchen , thank you very much for your help and sorry for answering this late: I had a look at the discussion. Someone suggested to use disjoint union to specify the condition under which the square pyramid is a Johnson solid. I don't see a straightforward way to implement this and don't want to create any confusion, so I suggest to leave this aside. I found out that for many Johnson solids, the names are/can also be used to describe larger classes of polytopes whose edges don't necessarily have the same lengths. That includes all (elongated) (bi-)pyramids, cupolas, rotundas and more. I don't think it would be particularly helpful to essentially duplicate all these objects in order to specify their edge lengths. In the interest of balancing consistency and and simplicity I suggest to create
And yes, the query was helpful, thank you! |
This project is part of MaRDI TA1 and the OSCAR project of the SFB-TRR 195.
The Johnson solids are a set of 92 polytopes. A vertex description of these has been notoriously hard to obtain, especially one that can be used by software, as many of these cannot be realized over the rational numbers. Now such a description is available at zenodo and it should be made findable via the portal. I have identified the following subtasks:
Does that sound reasonable?
cc @zkgeiselmann @alexej-jordan @antonydellavecchia
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