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Adding identifiers for paddy-field operations to the ADM #155
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Thanks Akane for submitting the proposal here. Arriving at an agreed list of distinct operation types has been an ongoing process with lots of discussion. We started at #111, and then revised it with #133, and from discussions in Austin, most everyone is open to continued refinement. Other than harvest operations, we have a pattern whereby there is a _GENERAL item for items not otherwise specified. As such, expanding the types with more specificity is viable. In this case, I think we'd just adjust the definition for FIELD_PREPARATION_GENERAL to something like "Non-tillage activities to prepare a field for cultivation including chopping stover, picking rocks, and other activities not otherwise specified by explicit types herein." I have a couple comments and questions: -How is Puddling different from Tillage? From your definition and what I read about it, it sounds like the equivalent of tillage with the only distinction being that the soil is covered by a layer of water. One might say that pulverization, leveling, water retention and weeding are also goals of upload-field tillage. -Can you define "cod" as you state it in the Puddling definition? I was not able to find a definition for that word that seemed to make sense in this context. -Rather than introducing DRAINAGE as a top-level concept, the classification of "Water Management in your document caught my eye. APPLICATION_IRRIGATION makes sense to me if we don't have anything else related to water, but I'm wondering if we might now want WATER_MANAGEMENT_GENERAL, WATER_MANAGEMENT_DRAINAGE, WATER_MANAGEMENT_TRENCH_DIGGING, and WATER_MANAGEMENT_IRRIGATION (which we could facilitate by means of superseding the APPLICATION_IRRIGATION code by the attributes on the Data Type Definition objects specified in 1.0 of the Standard). -Our Context Item concept is at once useful and problematic. The more we use ad hoc context items, the less the data in the ADAPT can be harvested in a plug and play manner. For something like mapping to AGROVOC and AAO, I'm wondering if we should instead extend our Data Type Definition and Enumeration Item objects with a defined attribute for "Vocabulary Mappings" in a new release. We could also make extensive use of such an attribute for mapping our Numeric DTDs to ISO11783-11 DDIs. @aferreyra what are your thoughts? |
@Jp-rice Levee coating (PADDY_PREPARATION_LEVEE_COATING) |
@knelson-farmbeltnorth a vocabulary mapping is classically called a Lexicon. It was a critical notion of the Business Collaboration Framework (BCF) as used by RosettaNet, ebXML, etc. |
@knelson-farmbeltnorth san Q1.How is Puddling different from Tillage? From your definition and what I read about it, it sounds like the equivalent of tillage with the only distinction being that the soil is covered by a layer of water. One might say that pulverization, leveling, water retention and weeding are also goals of upload-field tillage. Q2.Can you define "cod" as you state it in the Puddling definition? I was not able to find a definition for that word that seemed to make sense in this context. Q3. Rather than introducing DRAINAGE as a top-level concept, the classification of "Water Management in your document caught my eye. APPLICATION_IRRIGATION makes sense to me if we don't have anything else related to water, but I'm wondering if we might now want WATER_MANAGEMENT_GENERAL, WATER_MANAGEMENT_DRAINAGE, WATER_MANAGEMENT_TRENCH_DIGGING, and WATER_MANAGEMENT_IRRIGATION (which we could facilitate by means of superseding the APPLICATION_IRRIGATION code by the attributes on the Data Type Definition objects specified in 1.0 of the Standard). Q4.@strhea Curious on your thoughts here. How to classify Fertigation comes to mind, as does the fact that some may want to model an implicit cost of an amount of water in the same way they would manage other inputs. As with previous discussions on Operation Types, it's hard to model cleanly for all cases, it just strikes me that DRAINAGE is something of an odd man out here. |
@dubnemo san As I suggested in Austin, I recommend you 'call it what it really is', and not bend your concepts to the crop notion of FIELD. If you agree, please update your submission to the following: Levee coating (PADDY_PREPARATION_LEVEE_COATING)
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Thanks @Jp-rice . Re tillage and puddling, we have a mismatch between our two vocabularies. ADAPT would classify as Tillage both using a plow to turn over soil and using a disk harrow, etc. to break up clods. We don't currently have a breakdown between types of tillage, which arguably is hard to classify further as various combination implements have become common. Regarding separating out puddling from tillage, I would ask if there is an important reason to track if the tillage is under water. If so, perhaps there is need for an attribute elsewhere in the model to indicate that the field is underwater during any given operation. There are many ways to do this, my main concern is that our Operation Type classifications are clean and understandable. |
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@knelson-farmbeltnorth, my thoughts are as follows:
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SAG-SF ISO22006 Processes-SubProcesses.xlsx |
Thank you for discussing our proposals at the 2024 AgGateway Annual Meeting.
I would like to introduce our proposal for adding identifiers for paddy-field operations to the ADM using two methods.
Please review the attached proposal for more details.
AgGateway_proposal_from_Japan.pdf
I look forward to your feedback.
Akane Takezaki from NARO in Japan
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